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hello again I our side chatters say it

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with me now drinking a little drink

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smoking a little smoke from sunny San

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Diego I'm Greg Carl would and I hope

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you're all tearing it up out there

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fighting for your piece of the crag man

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today's show is one I've been holding on

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to for a few weeks because the last

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couple I thought were more about things

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in the current news cycle whereas this

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one is more about the war on human

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consciousness the spiritual parasites of

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humanity the hijacking of Freemasonry

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and the ever-present manipulation of

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history modern culture and everything in

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between

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although I did bring up Ferguson and

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police brutality but then again just

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because it's out of the current news

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cycle doesn't really mean the problems

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with police are any better and that said

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it is also just good to have a friend on

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as a guest Frederick's is one of those

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guys I've gotten to know really well in

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the old conspiracy circle and I know I'm

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better off for it I think you guys are

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too so let's just dive into it the

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mysteries of masonry the secret war

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within it the parasite that's sucking

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the energy out of the path of

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enlightenment Giants Nephilim archons

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magic and more with the best of the best

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everything you need to know from

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conspiracy

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alright folks as we walk this winding

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road of reality and try to penetrate the

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global enchantment laid upon the

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population by the shadowy Sorcerer's of

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the power pyramid we know our puzzle is

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far from complete and to gather up more

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pieces we rely on examining the

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connections of these major groups as

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well as looking into the rare pockets of

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time where truth has surfaced

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unexpectedly and lucky for us today's

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guest is a good friend of mine with a

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natural tendency to unearth these very

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valuable fragments of the big bamboozle

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and that is what we're talking about

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today

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his name is Frederick's lecture of

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esoteric philosophies occult sciences

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and mystery traditions he's been a

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member of over nine different esoteric

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orders and he's written a brand-new book

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hot off the presses called the secret

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war inside Freemasonry you know I'm you

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love on Frederick's welcome back to THC

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thank you Greg it's great to be back I'm

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just really excited about our

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conversation today I've been looking

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forward to it all day and last night and

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it's amazes me how long it's been since

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the last we spoke

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I mean of course we've had our

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conversations in the in the ether sphere

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out there you know back and forth but it

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is been a while since our last official

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conversation so I'm really excited to

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catch up yeah man yeah the last show we

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did was great we also had a great time

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at the paranoiac on last year checked

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out the local Scottish Rite Center and I

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also smoked a few bowls backstage with

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Yann Irvin before our big on-air blow up

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yeah I actually have all that on audio

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too you know to go through some day it's

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weird how things turn out but this

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should be a lot less hostile show I

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think and I'm pumped up here man I love

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the book I think it clarifies a lot of

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the confusion people have because even

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on this show one week I'll interview a

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guy who is dead set on the idea that the

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Freemasons are the most evil

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organization on earth and then the next

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week I'll interview a guy who's been a

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Mason for 20 years and is more about

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sharing sacred geometry and ushering in

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enlightenment so it can get a little

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unclear on who we can trust and who we

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can when it comes to these secret

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societies you know and nailing down that

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aspect is a big part of it and that's

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also a big part of your book wouldn't

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you say absolutely you know it was of

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course my own personal voyage and in the

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journey the experience I tried to

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chronicle as best as possible as I

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human being you know having emotions

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invested in your endeavors it was always

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an experience that required great

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sacrifice of money and time and having a

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family of being committed to these these

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lodges you know on one side but at the

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same time you know trying to gain

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understanding of the the myths and

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misconceptions woven into serious

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accounts and what was at the bottom of

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all this yeah man and it turned out

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great I think it's very clear when you

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get done with the book who you should be

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looking at who you should be pointing

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the finger at as sketchy organization

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but you know I did mention you've been

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in nine esoteric orders and sometimes

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people get sketched out on that I've had

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people in the comments section of given

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episodes be like you know I only had to

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get halfway through your introduction to

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know that I couldn't trust this guy and

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I don't want that to happen to you my

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man so at the paranoia con you disavowed

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your membership to these organizations

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why was that something you felt like you

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needed to do well as you've pointed out

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a lot of people in the quote-unquote

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truth or community or those who would

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know the truth about these things and

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they everyone when they hear while you

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were associated with all these orders

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that's such a deep commitment to this

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thing how can we trust your you know

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your your integrity or your authenticity

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with what you have to say but I just

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remind everybody that I started out as

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one of those people who was skeptical

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everything and coming to at it from a

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negative point of view based on all the

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negative press that's easily harvested

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from any casual web search online and I

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agree with me here that what you get

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from the mainstream is oftentimes just

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you know misconceptions and

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in with truth mixed in with real

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accounts and what I found is I well I

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needed to know I did all that research I

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found too many conflicting ideas too

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hi virtues and great achievements and

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ideas of the best that humanity had to

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offer versus these dark occulted mystics

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doing satanic rituals and you know

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something and all this other crazy talk

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reality and I was so fascinated and

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fixated before I finally realized I

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discovered in my own family history

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already been associated with these

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initiatory rights and in this

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conversation we might get into a little

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bit of that metaphysical reality and

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whether there's any truth to the idea

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that there is a destiny that's in the

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genes or in the bloodline you know and

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that a person might be drawn and called

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transcendental level that would cross

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truth to that and could a person

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actually make contact with that in their

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own consciousness and then this is

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something that I don't get a lot into in

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the book I do kind of allude to that a

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bit because I do mention my family

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history but in reality it kind of seems

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that there might be some truth to that

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that there may be this Universal social

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mind control program going on where the

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government in league with many think

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tanks like the RAND Corporation or the

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SR I are involved in impregnating or

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imprinting us all through collective

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economy and so maybe it was all

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contrived back in the 70s when I was a

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little boy you know watching television

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who knows right right but in the end I

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had to know I had to understand Greg and

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that's why I had to go in there and I

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had to be I had to allow myself to be

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initiated into these orders and I

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reasoned it a couple of ways once I

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found out that I had this family history

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destiny to go through an initiatory

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experience in some way in my lifetime to

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kind of link me up and what they call

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the Brotherhood of the mystic tie this

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intergenerational connection with others

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they they were also initiates in the

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mysteries and that is what Freemasonry

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knees other Western

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orders in America and in the British

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is ancient light in modern times mm-hmm

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yeah I mean I get it I have nothing

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wrong with that exploration I find it to

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be just a body of knowledge and when you

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have that knowledge you can use it to

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enslave or you can use it to enjoy your

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life and kind of take the reigns of your

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own universe and that's a noble thing

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bit about your personal experiences as a

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Mason we did talk about this in person I

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even filmed a little bit of you talking

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about it but I couldn't use it because

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the fans in the room were too loud but I

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have had a few experiences with police

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that were were you just an average Joe

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you might have gotten a ticket or even

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been taken to jail but because you were

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part of the club that didn't happen

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right yeah absolutely you see woman I

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tell one of those stories that you're

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saying yeah yeah I'll let people get

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jealous okay well here's one the first

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time I ever really experienced that sort

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of like cronyism or nepotism or whatever

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you want to call it and being somebody

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is a working-class person in life you

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know I always struggled in America with

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like having ID and cash and paychecks

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and getting you know what I mean getting

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the money at the on payday so you can go

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buy stuff you want to buy right and

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you're always like you don't have the

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proper ID or you have to have three

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forms of ID or you don't have a bank

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account here so we're gonna charge

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you're we're not even gonna [\h__\h] all the

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crazy things you go through so I've been

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through all those - right and then I

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joined a lodge in this local city in the

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Midwest and I find myself on a Friday

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afternoon at almost five o'clock across

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town from my house without my wallet I

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don't have any ID but I have a paycheck

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and I don't want the whole paycheck I

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just need like 50 bucks

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you know what I mean to put gas in the

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car and get a six-pack of beer or

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whatever and go back to the house you

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know but I won't make it in time to get

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that wallet to get to the bank to get

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the money in the bank and get them to

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give me back the 50 bucks so I go into a

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local branch where I am I'm aware the

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president of this Bank in the city is a

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brother Mason he happens to be the

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master of the lodge where I'm in and I'm

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in the line and we were just sitting in

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the bank on the other side of town last

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Sunday rehearsing the ritual for the

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lodge

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so I know this guy's name and I walk in

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and I just go up to the tower I don't

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have an idea I have a paid so I have a

283
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payroll check with no ID and I'm walking

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in off the street I walk up to this

285
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young kid a college-age kid and I'm like

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look I don't have any idea I need to

287
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deposit this cheque and I need 50 you

288
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know fifty dollars back and I don't have

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any ID but I am an a close associate of

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the president of the bank so I'm hoping

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that you guys will go to work me and I

292
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do have a bank account here and I could

293
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tell you my name and my social security

294
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and I'm and all that stuff and the old

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gentleman standing behind the teller

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heard me say I'm a close associate of

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the president of the Bank and he goes

298
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really how are you associated and I said

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well I sit in Lodge Blanc you know and

300
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with him on the line and he goes freely

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he reaches around the corner and gives

302
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me the secret handshake and says I'm

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from Lodge so-and-so how can I help you

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brother and I walked out of there with

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$50 in my deposited check a slip for the

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check so I could have been somebody that

307
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a lot you know completely lying he

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didn't verify any of that I could have

309
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stolen that check walked in there said I

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was that person if I knew the secret

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handshake said what I said and walked

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out with $50 you know we're off the

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street I got away with that I find that

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amazing man it's something that people

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need to realize that the rules are only

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applicable to those that aren't in the

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club and you know we don't need to get

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into all the experiences but I know

319
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there are a couple with police you know

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you've been pulled over without a

321
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license given the hand signals show them

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the badge and you're good to go

323
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and that's kind of the angle that that I

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really got thinking about this morning

325
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because I see a lot of people the big

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thing going on right now a lot of people

327
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are talking about Ferguson and police

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brutality but people are kind of missing

329
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the mark if they don't experience it in

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their own life that they don't realize

331
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police and the system banking system is

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also very entangled with all this they

333
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don't treat people equally you know if

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you're a member that same Lodge then you

335
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get special privileges you get a free

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pass and even just being white does

337
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offer its advantages and it makes me so

338
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mad to hear people spouting off online

339
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with things like well I don't see a

340
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problem the police always treat me fine

341
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well not everyone experiences the same

342
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reality bro so maybe you should just

343
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stay out of this one because it's a new

344
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isn't your fight and I think I think

345
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those examples and having the privilege

346
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and masonry also just goes to show there

347
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are layers

348
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to how the system is going to treat you

349
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and if you are black you might be on one

350
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of those lower rungs and yeah I'd be

351
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upset too absolutely I mean we live in a

352
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stratosphere society a clade is a class

353
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system I was raised to be believed that

354
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it was a classless society but that's a

355
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false premise we live in a class system

356
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where clearly there's castes that are

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set and I grew up in a small town in New

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England where they had a golden circle

359
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that's what they called it just like the

360
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Knights of the Golden Circle that we

361
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talked about and I had never heard of

362
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the Knights they go in the circle when I

363
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already knew about the golden circle in

364
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the hometown and it's the fact that

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these same that same town where you talk

366
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about getting pulled over I mean I live

367
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in a town where a quarter or a third of

368
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the police department were brother

369
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Masons in the line so some of them I out

370
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ranked in the lodge and yet there are

371
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officers on the on the force pulling me

372
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over so see there's a little conflict of

373
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interest there right and I would get

374
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away with things because of that and

375
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other people were even worse I mean you

376
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know people could drive by a policeman

377
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wearing just a bathrobe and no shoes

378
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flying 100 miles an hour if he was in

379
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that Golden Circle they'd just be like

380
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they'd motioned to him to slow down you

381
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know as he went by there'd be no ticket

382
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there'd be no shakedown there'd be no

383
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racial profiling there be no

384
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brutalization there'd be no violation of

385
00:14:23,410 --> 00:14:22,130
civil rights whatsoever mm-hmm and

386
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that's what we're that's what you're

387
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that's what you're addressing and it is

388
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connected to this whole thing you know

389
00:14:29,590 --> 00:14:27,620
that we started this conversation

390
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talking about this book I released and

391
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one of the chapters in the book is a

392
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secret war on human consciousness and

393
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what we know is that we have the

394
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architects of our paradigm they're

395
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controlling the police are a brutal

396
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priesthood that reinforces the paradigm

397
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with the whip and the stick these are

398
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the ones that last is where the rubber

399
00:14:50,949 --> 00:14:49,010
meets the road literally and if you are

400
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out of line they will knock you back

401
00:14:55,180 --> 00:14:52,970
into line and you know people think that

402
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I love I had the same conversation you

403
00:14:59,139 --> 00:14:56,930
were just talking about debating with

404
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people who try to dismiss it as well I'm

405
00:15:02,139 --> 00:15:00,560
glad the police are out there you know

406
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if you don't do anything wrong you got

407
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nothing to fear well what about the

408
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falsely accused and what about the

409
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racially profiled and we know the

410
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justice system is blah blah blah no it's

411
00:15:14,949 --> 00:15:13,730
not the justice system is corrupt and we

412
00:15:16,300 --> 00:15:14,959
live in a society where you can buy a

413
00:15:17,510 --> 00:15:16,310
way out oh did you prove that you know

414
00:15:19,820 --> 00:15:17,520
any way you can get away

415
00:15:23,330 --> 00:15:19,830
with murder you know and this is just

416
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one high-profile case in a situation

417
00:15:28,310 --> 00:15:25,320
where we know on the local level people

418
00:15:30,560 --> 00:15:28,320
violate other people all the time in

419
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many various ways their rights and their

420
00:15:34,820 --> 00:15:32,670
person and get away with it because they

421
00:15:37,420 --> 00:15:34,830
are privileged you know like the various

422
00:15:39,950 --> 00:15:37,430
dark cases of the Kennedys or any other

423
00:15:41,810 --> 00:15:39,960
dynastic family that's afflicted

424
00:15:44,120 --> 00:15:41,820
themselves upon the American culture and

425
00:15:46,130 --> 00:15:44,130
they've you know the left victims in

426
00:15:47,990 --> 00:15:46,140
their wake because they're rich and

427
00:15:49,550 --> 00:15:48,000
privileged this is the culture we live

428
00:15:52,340 --> 00:15:49,560
in and I grew up in that little town

429
00:15:56,120 --> 00:15:52,350
where it was a resort town so there was

430
00:15:59,270 --> 00:15:56,130
a high high class a high calibre of

431
00:16:01,310 --> 00:15:59,280
people who had huge houses on the water

432
00:16:04,850 --> 00:16:01,320
Johnny Depp's got a house in my hometown

433
00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:04,860
you know and so this is the this is the

434
00:16:08,540 --> 00:16:06,930
the scene that I grew up in where you

435
00:16:11,060 --> 00:16:08,550
had people who were working-class folk

436
00:16:13,010 --> 00:16:11,070
right next to people who drove you know

437
00:16:16,280 --> 00:16:13,020
the kids drove Mercedes to high school

438
00:16:18,020 --> 00:16:16,290
you know and they drove Bentley's you

439
00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:18,030
know and these are teenagers you know

440
00:16:21,710 --> 00:16:19,530
they had credit cards and stuff they had

441
00:16:23,840 --> 00:16:21,720
more nicer clothes than the parents of

442
00:16:26,180 --> 00:16:23,850
the rid of the working-class kids and so

443
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there's also a high rate of suicide in

444
00:16:30,500 --> 00:16:28,200
this town because that that that's that

445
00:16:33,320 --> 00:16:30,510
secret war on human consciousness is

446
00:16:35,210 --> 00:16:33,330
convincing everyone that you know to be

447
00:16:37,370 --> 00:16:35,220
rich to be wealthy and to be able to buy

448
00:16:39,230 --> 00:16:37,380
all the products that's really the goal

449
00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:39,240
right I mean that's really enlightenment

450
00:16:45,350 --> 00:16:41,370
in an in America that's the enlightened

451
00:16:48,140 --> 00:16:45,360
state isn't it human Excelsior you know

452
00:16:50,210 --> 00:16:48,150
homo excelsis state is to be successful

453
00:16:52,520 --> 00:16:50,220
in rich and have all the trappings but

454
00:16:54,770 --> 00:16:52,530
in the end we know that can't be

455
00:16:56,630 --> 00:16:54,780
satisfying because we hear all the cases

456
00:16:58,700 --> 00:16:56,640
of people who take their lives who have

457
00:17:01,370 --> 00:16:58,710
everything you know perceive I have a

458
00:17:03,980 --> 00:17:01,380
friend who inherited millions of dollars

459
00:17:06,350 --> 00:17:03,990
when he was 16 years old he killed

460
00:17:09,290 --> 00:17:06,360
himself when he was 29 you know I mean

461
00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:09,300
13 years later so he had everything he

462
00:17:15,560 --> 00:17:11,930
killed himself in his Maserati you know

463
00:17:17,060 --> 00:17:15,570
so this is the this is the the world any

464
00:17:19,310 --> 00:17:17,070
when you hear about the Heath Ledger's

465
00:17:22,670 --> 00:17:19,320
or the Chris Farley's or there any other

466
00:17:24,590 --> 00:17:22,680
number of celebrities the Robin Williams

467
00:17:27,079 --> 00:17:24,600
who have everything and it really

468
00:17:29,540 --> 00:17:27,089
doesn't it doesn't pay off because the

469
00:17:31,250 --> 00:17:29,550
the the the bottom line to that what

470
00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:31,260
they're selling that then

471
00:17:37,910 --> 00:17:33,930
myth of progress is shallow it isn't it

472
00:17:40,850 --> 00:17:37,920
you know false enlightenment yeah and

473
00:17:42,980 --> 00:17:40,860
we're all though those of us who drink

474
00:17:46,160 --> 00:17:42,990
the kool-aid and buy into that who give

475
00:17:48,230 --> 00:17:46,170
ourselves willingly over to that pursuit

476
00:17:49,940 --> 00:17:48,240
of material isn't that so-called pursuit

477
00:17:52,640 --> 00:17:49,950
of happiness that's talked about in the

478
00:17:55,850 --> 00:17:52,650
in the sacred papers of America right

479
00:17:57,770 --> 00:17:55,860
well when we give in to that I think a

480
00:18:00,470 --> 00:17:57,780
lot of times we are disappointed which

481
00:18:02,990 --> 00:18:00,480
is why in the end we want to cultivate

482
00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:03,000
some sort of richer inner experience and

483
00:18:08,930 --> 00:18:05,850
this is what we talked about you know

484
00:18:11,030 --> 00:18:08,940
also amidst all the other you know that

485
00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:11,040
the conspiracy car at the paranoia con

486
00:18:14,900 --> 00:18:13,290
throwing ideas around about the

487
00:18:17,330 --> 00:18:14,910
dark-coated mystics we also talked about

488
00:18:20,420 --> 00:18:17,340
the hope of enlightenment and the true

489
00:18:23,660 --> 00:18:20,430
idea of non-compliance right Craig of

490
00:18:25,820 --> 00:18:23,670
you know writing this book I am in my

491
00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:25,830
own way a revolutionary because I put

492
00:18:30,050 --> 00:18:27,690
forth an experience where I infiltrated

493
00:18:32,690 --> 00:18:30,060
these lodges I went in there and I

494
00:18:34,460 --> 00:18:32,700
learned their secrets and I come to

495
00:18:36,620 --> 00:18:34,470
everyone right now today and I say guess

496
00:18:38,690 --> 00:18:36,630
what two things number one the guys

497
00:18:41,420 --> 00:18:38,700
inside the lodge barely know what they

498
00:18:44,030 --> 00:18:41,430
have they barely understand anything

499
00:18:46,250 --> 00:18:44,040
number one and number two they don't

500
00:18:48,740 --> 00:18:46,260
corner the market on enlightenment guys

501
00:18:51,770 --> 00:18:48,750
what they what you think they possess

502
00:18:53,990 --> 00:18:51,780
you already possess just like all of us

503
00:18:54,560 --> 00:18:54,000
it's just unreal eyes potential within

504
00:18:57,680 --> 00:18:54,570
us all

505
00:19:00,020 --> 00:18:57,690
Amen men well said I love that the term

506
00:19:01,670 --> 00:19:00,030
midlife crisis because to me that's just

507
00:19:03,350 --> 00:19:01,680
when you finally wake up you know you

508
00:19:05,330 --> 00:19:03,360
don't get to go back in time and get

509
00:19:07,280 --> 00:19:05,340
your your life back but you realize that

510
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:07,290
you're 3/4 of the way through the race

511
00:19:10,520 --> 00:19:08,610
and you don't even want to keep running

512
00:19:14,030 --> 00:19:10,530
you know that's what the midlife crisis

513
00:19:15,980 --> 00:19:14,040
really signifies to me absolutely even

514
00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:15,990
calling the police a brutal priesthood I

515
00:19:20,810 --> 00:19:19,290
love it and being my masonic authority I

516
00:19:22,580 --> 00:19:20,820
had to ask you about this because I saw

517
00:19:24,170 --> 00:19:22,590
this online you know a lot of people

518
00:19:25,490 --> 00:19:24,180
with this know not to harp on this

519
00:19:26,990 --> 00:19:25,500
Ferguson thing but a lot of people are

520
00:19:30,020 --> 00:19:27,000
saying the elite are trying to usher in

521
00:19:32,030 --> 00:19:30,030
this race warp perhaps and that well in

522
00:19:33,740 --> 00:19:32,040
fact may be true I'm not sure but I'm

523
00:19:35,660 --> 00:19:33,750
also not sure if you saw this but my man

524
00:19:37,550 --> 00:19:35,670
Isaac Weiss hapa has been on the show

525
00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:37,560
before from Illuminati watcher calm he

526
00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:39,810
posted a piece about how this hands up

527
00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:42,450
don't shoot hand sign actually has its

528
00:19:44,899 --> 00:19:44,130
roots in masonry apparently it's called

529
00:19:47,479 --> 00:19:44,909
the grand

530
00:19:49,430 --> 00:19:47,489
sign of distress and the fact that this

531
00:19:52,129 --> 00:19:49,440
is now coming up in a different way it's

532
00:19:53,779 --> 00:19:52,139
kind of weird it might be a nod to some

533
00:19:56,950 --> 00:19:53,789
of those powerful people that shows that

534
00:19:59,269 --> 00:19:56,960
it is being manufactured perhaps

535
00:20:02,180 --> 00:19:59,279
absolutely the Grande hailing sign of

536
00:20:05,109 --> 00:20:02,190
distress basically it is the hands up

537
00:20:07,879 --> 00:20:05,119
don't shoot sign but it's a three-stage

538
00:20:09,889 --> 00:20:07,889
descent from that point so you put your

539
00:20:12,710 --> 00:20:09,899
hands at your side you raise them up and

540
00:20:15,259 --> 00:20:12,720
then they say you know Oh Lord God is

541
00:20:17,269 --> 00:20:15,269
there no hope for the widow's son and as

542
00:20:18,919 --> 00:20:17,279
you say those words you lower your hands

543
00:20:21,619 --> 00:20:18,929
in two stages to the middle and then

544
00:20:23,330 --> 00:20:21,629
down to your sides so that's the that's

545
00:20:25,519 --> 00:20:23,340
the that's the sign that Joseph Smith

546
00:20:27,830 --> 00:20:25,529
supposedly gave before they mowed him

547
00:20:29,389 --> 00:20:27,840
down with rifles or hey you know and he

548
00:20:31,549 --> 00:20:29,399
jumped out the second floor of the

549
00:20:34,460 --> 00:20:31,559
Carthage Courthouse to his death along

550
00:20:35,869 --> 00:20:34,470
with his brother Hyrum so this is you

551
00:20:37,580 --> 00:20:35,879
know they say that there was Masonic

552
00:20:40,519 --> 00:20:37,590
rings wielding the fingers of the

553
00:20:43,969 --> 00:20:40,529
triggers of those rifles you know but

554
00:20:45,769 --> 00:20:43,979
yeah right you this is a grand hailing

555
00:20:47,629 --> 00:20:45,779
sign of distress is like a gang sign you

556
00:20:49,909 --> 00:20:47,639
throw down at that checkpoint if you're

557
00:20:52,009 --> 00:20:49,919
trying to escape from some you know so

558
00:20:53,839 --> 00:20:52,019
social upheaval or whatever or you're

559
00:20:56,239 --> 00:20:53,849
being intercepted by a law enforcement

560
00:20:58,430 --> 00:20:56,249
official or other military official

561
00:21:01,669 --> 00:20:58,440
because don't forget many many military

562
00:21:04,039 --> 00:21:01,679
people are personnel are also brother

563
00:21:05,869 --> 00:21:04,049
Masons or and and there's you know

564
00:21:07,729 --> 00:21:05,879
there's female orders too there's Co

565
00:21:10,669 --> 00:21:07,739
masonry which accepts women and then

566
00:21:12,619 --> 00:21:10,679
there's the sub orders the subordinate

567
00:21:14,599 --> 00:21:12,629
orders to Freemasonry that have women

568
00:21:17,299 --> 00:21:14,609
the jobs daughters and the order of the

569
00:21:18,379 --> 00:21:17,309
Easter star but we wanted to get back to

570
00:21:19,909 --> 00:21:18,389
one of the questions I don't think I

571
00:21:22,789 --> 00:21:19,919
answered the second part of and the

572
00:21:24,289 --> 00:21:22,799
reason why I felt a need to expose the

573
00:21:25,759 --> 00:21:24,299
secrets of Freemasonry because and I

574
00:21:27,580 --> 00:21:25,769
just mentioned women you know that's one

575
00:21:31,519 --> 00:21:27,590
of the one of the reasons is because

576
00:21:34,099 --> 00:21:31,529
women are excluded from Freemasonry as

577
00:21:37,430 --> 00:21:34,109
if there's some this archaic patriarchal

578
00:21:39,769 --> 00:21:37,440
idea that women don't deserve the light

579
00:21:42,219 --> 00:21:39,779
of Freemasonry for some reason they're

580
00:21:46,460 --> 00:21:42,229
subordinate or on unruhe you know

581
00:21:50,299 --> 00:21:46,470
undeserving and that's so Victorian and

582
00:21:53,329 --> 00:21:50,309
older and so outdated that it really it

583
00:21:56,450 --> 00:21:53,339
begs to be pointed at and derided I

584
00:21:58,190 --> 00:21:56,460
think and criticized as a approach that

585
00:21:58,470 --> 00:21:58,200
needs to be let go of it doesn't really

586
00:22:00,419 --> 00:21:58,480
hole

587
00:22:03,390 --> 00:22:00,429
water that that idea but the second

588
00:22:06,150 --> 00:22:03,400
reason is because Freemasonry came forth

589
00:22:07,890 --> 00:22:06,160
as this this light to man right we're

590
00:22:10,620 --> 00:22:07,900
bringing forth these ideas the lights of

591
00:22:12,960 --> 00:22:10,630
the mysteries of ancient times and I

592
00:22:14,850 --> 00:22:12,970
really feel like in human society

593
00:22:17,039 --> 00:22:14,860
especially here in America and also in

594
00:22:19,110 --> 00:22:17,049
the British Isles that Freemasonry has

595
00:22:21,450 --> 00:22:19,120
failed to bring that light that it's

596
00:22:23,190 --> 00:22:21,460
actually instead contributed to the

597
00:22:25,620 --> 00:22:23,200
darkness and has brought about the chaos

598
00:22:28,200 --> 00:22:25,630
that then it will then bring forth some

599
00:22:32,220 --> 00:22:28,210
false order that's contrived and

600
00:22:34,500 --> 00:22:32,230
designed to control us all yeah man and

601
00:22:35,669 --> 00:22:34,510
and that is a big revelation that came

602
00:22:37,890 --> 00:22:35,679
out in your book I mean a lot of people

603
00:22:39,659 --> 00:22:37,900
might have that impression but to

604
00:22:42,030 --> 00:22:39,669
actually have been on the inside you

605
00:22:44,100 --> 00:22:42,040
know it's a more respectable opinion a

606
00:22:46,020 --> 00:22:44,110
more educated opinion and to get into

607
00:22:48,210 --> 00:22:46,030
the details of kind of the overarching

608
00:22:49,980 --> 00:22:48,220
theme of the book when you do unravel

609
00:22:51,330 --> 00:22:49,990
all this tangled up information on

610
00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:51,340
masonry and you see these connections

611
00:22:55,590 --> 00:22:54,130
and you separate the true history from

612
00:22:57,510 --> 00:22:55,600
what some of these groups are doing

613
00:23:00,450 --> 00:22:57,520
they're trying to manufacture backdate

614
00:23:02,820 --> 00:23:00,460
history for their own purposes when you

615
00:23:05,730 --> 00:23:02,830
look at all this who do you see as the

616
00:23:09,870 --> 00:23:05,740
major troublemakers in this saga okay

617
00:23:14,580 --> 00:23:09,880
well there is in fact a group of

618
00:23:17,039 --> 00:23:14,590
individuals that we knowingly refer to

619
00:23:18,299 --> 00:23:17,049
as the Illuminati but this is not that

620
00:23:22,380 --> 00:23:18,309
this is not how they would label

621
00:23:25,370 --> 00:23:22,390
themselves and this is not how they were

622
00:23:28,350 --> 00:23:25,380
labeled officially you know in their

623
00:23:29,730 --> 00:23:28,360
whatever organizations they would find

624
00:23:32,010 --> 00:23:29,740
themselves in but for the sake of

625
00:23:33,060 --> 00:23:32,020
discussion and for the sake of giving

626
00:23:36,770 --> 00:23:33,070
people an idea of what we're talking

627
00:23:40,650 --> 00:23:36,780
about there is an Illuminati like

628
00:23:43,530 --> 00:23:40,660
organism that has travelled downs riding

629
00:23:44,820 --> 00:23:43,540
sidecar along with human history you

630
00:23:47,250 --> 00:23:44,830
know and it all goes back to a time

631
00:23:50,100 --> 00:23:47,260
probably the early days after a great

632
00:23:51,990 --> 00:23:50,110
cataclysm and I broke this down at other

633
00:23:54,330 --> 00:23:52,000
in other works I've done besides this

634
00:23:56,700 --> 00:23:54,340
book I've talked about it you know the

635
00:23:58,710 --> 00:23:56,710
idea that in the last days of the flood

636
00:24:01,289 --> 00:23:58,720
they know the waters receded and the wet

637
00:24:04,110 --> 00:24:01,299
mud still stand sit on the lands who

638
00:24:07,260 --> 00:24:04,120
would be you know the most important

639
00:24:09,090 --> 00:24:07,270
people to know if not the builders and

640
00:24:11,730 --> 00:24:09,100
architects right the people who could

641
00:24:14,789 --> 00:24:11,740
rebuild they're the guys you want around

642
00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:14,799
so their tools became an integral part

643
00:24:19,350 --> 00:24:16,809
of the allegories of all those these

644
00:24:20,940 --> 00:24:19,360
secret societies for a reason and they

645
00:24:22,260 --> 00:24:20,950
drew upon these traditions because a lot

646
00:24:24,180 --> 00:24:22,270
of these orders also drew their

647
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:24,190
traditions from the ancient Roman common

648
00:24:28,889 --> 00:24:26,890
scene guilds the Kama scene guilds were

649
00:24:30,659 --> 00:24:28,899
the cathedral builders the early

650
00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:30,669
Cathedral builders and the great

651
00:24:36,299 --> 00:24:32,610
architects of ancient times and they

652
00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:36,309
they had hermetics the the science of

653
00:24:42,269 --> 00:24:38,890
the occult forbidden arts woven into

654
00:24:46,830 --> 00:24:42,279
their you know and and that that is at

655
00:24:49,470 --> 00:24:46,840
the root of all these orders you know at

656
00:24:52,919 --> 00:24:49,480
the basis of it all you have this this

657
00:24:55,740 --> 00:24:52,929
need to keep things in symmetry this

658
00:24:59,130 --> 00:24:55,750
idea of reflecting the divine and the

659
00:25:02,850 --> 00:24:59,140
idea of attracting excellence it's all

660
00:25:05,279 --> 00:25:02,860
woven into a myth that's dangled like a

661
00:25:08,039 --> 00:25:05,289
carrot to the every man who walks in the

662
00:25:10,680 --> 00:25:08,049
door of a lodge and and and behind it

663
00:25:12,659 --> 00:25:10,690
are these these orders and so you ask

664
00:25:14,250 --> 00:25:12,669
who who is it well I can tell you from

665
00:25:16,590 --> 00:25:14,260
in my book I speak a lot in the

666
00:25:18,029 --> 00:25:16,600
histories Freemasonry ancient craft

667
00:25:21,210 --> 00:25:18,039
masonry is it as we understand it is

668
00:25:24,299 --> 00:25:21,220
born in the British Isles in the early

669
00:25:26,279 --> 00:25:24,309
1700s it quickly migrates to the

670
00:25:29,399 --> 00:25:26,289
continent and when it migrates to the

671
00:25:33,389 --> 00:25:29,409
continent it explodes like an infection

672
00:25:35,490 --> 00:25:33,399
it becomes an amazing phenomenon of what

673
00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:35,500
they call that the generation of multi

674
00:25:43,980 --> 00:25:40,690
degrees that basically turn into well an

675
00:25:45,330 --> 00:25:43,990
average French or German itinerant Mason

676
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:45,340
a man traveling from village to village

677
00:25:50,730 --> 00:25:48,010
if you had that you know a trade or if

678
00:25:52,500 --> 00:25:50,740
he was just a shiftless hunter or

679
00:25:54,000 --> 00:25:52,510
whatever you know you could travel from

680
00:25:55,590 --> 00:25:54,010
town to town and show up in a local

681
00:25:57,600 --> 00:25:55,600
lodge if he was already a brother Mason

682
00:25:59,519 --> 00:25:57,610
in the first three degrees he could

683
00:26:02,279 --> 00:25:59,529
bring these extra new Murray degrees

684
00:26:04,889 --> 00:26:02,289
with him and sell them peddle them to

685
00:26:06,180 --> 00:26:04,899
the other Mason's in the lodge so it

686
00:26:08,700 --> 00:26:06,190
would basically sell them pieces of

687
00:26:11,159 --> 00:26:08,710
paper with fancy seals on them and an

688
00:26:12,810 --> 00:26:11,169
archaic symbols and words and teach them

689
00:26:15,029 --> 00:26:12,820
a few secret handshakes and give them

690
00:26:16,590 --> 00:26:15,039
some pseudo history and a secret word

691
00:26:17,340 --> 00:26:16,600
and then and then they pay him like a

692
00:26:19,590 --> 00:26:17,350
couple bucks

693
00:26:21,990 --> 00:26:19,600
you know he'd go on to the next town

694
00:26:24,950 --> 00:26:22,000
that would be his industry really oh the

695
00:26:27,110 --> 00:26:24,960
degree peddlers and so

696
00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:27,120
that's one aspect but eventually that

697
00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:29,610
this tradition all produced hundreds and

698
00:26:33,980 --> 00:26:32,010
thousands of various degrees that kind

699
00:26:36,380 --> 00:26:33,990
of organized in these little councils

700
00:26:37,909 --> 00:26:36,390
and rites and orders that's why these

701
00:26:40,310 --> 00:26:37,919
that's what these words mean they're

702
00:26:43,039 --> 00:26:40,320
like the grouping up of degrees in two

703
00:26:45,340 --> 00:26:43,049
different traditions and keeping them

704
00:26:48,110 --> 00:26:45,350
together and in these little groups

705
00:26:50,630 --> 00:26:48,120
hierarchy of forms around the group and

706
00:26:53,210 --> 00:26:50,640
then the leadership you know asserts its

707
00:26:55,010 --> 00:26:53,220
authority and so that's what all the

708
00:26:57,799 --> 00:26:55,020
various histories of all these varying

709
00:27:00,649 --> 00:26:57,809
degrees and rights and orders and all

710
00:27:03,740 --> 00:27:00,659
this is connected to different

711
00:27:07,010 --> 00:27:03,750
leadership's vying for authority and

712
00:27:09,139 --> 00:27:07,020
control over the either Freemasonry

713
00:27:11,899 --> 00:27:09,149
proper ancient craft masonry or some

714
00:27:14,120 --> 00:27:11,909
other sub group of it you know some

715
00:27:17,539 --> 00:27:14,130
other side group and the Scottish Rite

716
00:27:20,720 --> 00:27:17,549
is a huge part of this the Scottish Rite

717
00:27:23,450 --> 00:27:20,730
was one of these groups that it was it

718
00:27:25,850 --> 00:27:23,460
born out of that same European tradition

719
00:27:27,710 --> 00:27:25,860
the Scottish Rite was implanted it was

720
00:27:31,399 --> 00:27:27,720
sort of injected or inoculated into the

721
00:27:33,380 --> 00:27:31,409
American culture in the late 18th

722
00:27:37,370 --> 00:27:33,390
century in the form of what was called

723
00:27:40,039 --> 00:27:37,380
the ineffable degrees or the the lodge

724
00:27:44,149 --> 00:27:40,049
of perfection you know the the Rite of

725
00:27:46,100 --> 00:27:44,159
perfection and so it sort of evolved in

726
00:27:48,500 --> 00:27:46,110
the early days before the Civil War and

727
00:27:50,690 --> 00:27:48,510
then through and after the Civil War the

728
00:27:53,149 --> 00:27:50,700
Civil War it evolved into the Scottish

729
00:27:56,750 --> 00:27:53,159
Rite it was first called the Scottish

730
00:27:57,350 --> 00:27:56,760
Rite in 1861 by Albert Pike very very

731
00:28:00,169 --> 00:27:57,360
infamous

732
00:28:03,260 --> 00:28:00,179
/ famous you know Civil War Brigadier

733
00:28:06,019 --> 00:28:03,270
General who you know ends up being the

734
00:28:08,899 --> 00:28:06,029
basically the guy who really puts the

735
00:28:11,090 --> 00:28:08,909
Scottish Rite on the map mm-hmm so to

736
00:28:13,250 --> 00:28:11,100
speak and that and this in my book we

737
00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:13,260
map it out we talk about there the

738
00:28:19,070 --> 00:28:15,690
Scottish Rite agents at odds with what

739
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:19,080
we call the York Rite which is the more

740
00:28:23,659 --> 00:28:21,450
Americanized version of that ancient

741
00:28:27,169 --> 00:28:23,669
craft masonry that was brought over here

742
00:28:29,060 --> 00:28:27,179
in the early 18th century by English

743
00:28:31,250 --> 00:28:29,070
soldiers a lot of them in séjour noir

744
00:28:33,379 --> 00:28:31,260
lodges where the military would bring

745
00:28:35,120 --> 00:28:33,389
over versions of masonry that they

746
00:28:37,070 --> 00:28:35,130
carried with them into the colonies and

747
00:28:38,690 --> 00:28:37,080
then they would convert the locals

748
00:28:40,700 --> 00:28:38,700
they'd initiate them into the law

749
00:28:42,380 --> 00:28:40,710
and then they would form a lodge right

750
00:28:43,970 --> 00:28:42,390
there in that local area and that's how

751
00:28:47,840 --> 00:28:43,980
lodges were transplanted into the

752
00:28:50,299 --> 00:28:47,850
colonies interesting yeah I think it's

753
00:28:53,060 --> 00:28:50,309
it's such a fascinating saga a lot of

754
00:28:55,370 --> 00:28:53,070
infiltration it seems to be kind of

755
00:28:57,770 --> 00:28:55,380
their same blueprint for control just

756
00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:57,780
applied to infiltrating secret societies

757
00:29:01,010 --> 00:28:58,890
and getting in there just like they

758
00:29:03,380 --> 00:29:01,020
might have done with the you know the

759
00:29:05,960 --> 00:29:03,390
sixties revolution you get in there you

760
00:29:07,610 --> 00:29:05,970
infiltrate it you steer people to where

761
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:07,620
you want them steered basically in

762
00:29:11,840 --> 00:29:09,210
Scottish Rite it seems like they just

763
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:11,850
get people to continue paying their dues

764
00:29:17,150 --> 00:29:15,570
and walk along a road to nowhere because

765
00:29:19,430 --> 00:29:17,160
they kind of dangle that carrot and it

766
00:29:21,799 --> 00:29:19,440
never really comes it seems to be what I

767
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:21,809
gathered out of Scottish right and so it

768
00:29:25,280 --> 00:29:23,610
begs the question on those upper levels

769
00:29:26,840 --> 00:29:25,290
what are they doing with all that money

770
00:29:28,460 --> 00:29:26,850
they're a huge organization you know

771
00:29:30,280 --> 00:29:28,470
they've they've definitely had their

772
00:29:33,350 --> 00:29:30,290
tentacles in a lot of different areas

773
00:29:34,940 --> 00:29:33,360
yeah there's all kinds of crazy stories

774
00:29:37,070 --> 00:29:34,950
about what happens with all the money

775
00:29:39,799 --> 00:29:37,080
they gather up they tell they claim to

776
00:29:41,570 --> 00:29:39,809
the world that they donate or they claim

777
00:29:43,159 --> 00:29:41,580
to the world that they give over a one

778
00:29:45,560 --> 00:29:43,169
and a half million dollars a day I

779
00:29:47,270 --> 00:29:45,570
believe to charitable endeavors let's

780
00:29:50,450 --> 00:29:47,280
talk about Masonic charities for just a

781
00:29:53,419 --> 00:29:50,460
moment the idea of Masonic charity began

782
00:29:55,240 --> 00:29:53,429
in the colonies of America with the

783
00:29:58,250 --> 00:29:55,250
notion that Masons helped one another

784
00:30:00,409 --> 00:29:58,260
written right within the initiatory

785
00:30:03,919 --> 00:30:00,419
obligations of the first three degrees

786
00:30:06,799 --> 00:30:03,929
in masonry you continually reinforce

787
00:30:09,020 --> 00:30:06,809
restate you know reestablish that you

788
00:30:11,510 --> 00:30:09,030
will fly to the general relief of a

789
00:30:14,390 --> 00:30:11,520
freemason a brother Mason who's in

790
00:30:16,730 --> 00:30:14,400
distress you know when you're able to do

791
00:30:20,150 --> 00:30:16,740
so and it won't cause you distress and

792
00:30:21,530 --> 00:30:20,160
you'll do it immediately especially if

793
00:30:24,110 --> 00:30:21,540
he applies to you for help

794
00:30:26,150 --> 00:30:24,120
so this tenant was was carried out by

795
00:30:27,530 --> 00:30:26,160
the early Masons in America so if a

796
00:30:29,690 --> 00:30:27,540
brother Mason down the road and Matt

797
00:30:32,030 --> 00:30:29,700
imagine a colony setting we're all

798
00:30:33,409 --> 00:30:32,040
homesteading really and you know I'm

799
00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:33,419
down the road and we're both in the

800
00:30:38,510 --> 00:30:35,490
lodge and and you need something I'd

801
00:30:41,210 --> 00:30:38,520
come help ya and that got around well in

802
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:41,220
a small colony community if another

803
00:30:45,919 --> 00:30:43,530
person who wasn't in the lodge that

804
00:30:47,900 --> 00:30:45,929
needed help in those situations the

805
00:30:49,790 --> 00:30:47,910
average person out there today is pretty

806
00:30:51,700 --> 00:30:49,800
egalitarian I think and they would help

807
00:30:53,529 --> 00:30:51,710
somebody they saw a need if it

808
00:30:55,060 --> 00:30:53,539
wasn't gonna hurt them too bad you know

809
00:30:57,070 --> 00:30:55,070
and that's what would happen and

810
00:30:59,320 --> 00:30:57,080
eventually this idea this notion of

811
00:31:01,769 --> 00:30:59,330
charitable endeavor began but it always

812
00:31:05,649 --> 00:31:01,779
kind of stayed at that local level until

813
00:31:07,659 --> 00:31:05,659
around 1825 I believe it was when a

814
00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:07,669
certain captain William Morgan went

815
00:31:12,360 --> 00:31:09,970
disappeared on September 11th by the way

816
00:31:14,529 --> 00:31:12,370
when he disappeared

817
00:31:17,529 --> 00:31:14,539
Freemasonry almost got shut down in

818
00:31:19,180 --> 00:31:17,539
America it's basically the because what

819
00:31:21,220 --> 00:31:19,190
it was found out after the fact was is

820
00:31:23,169 --> 00:31:21,230
that several Mason's not only abducted

821
00:31:26,380 --> 00:31:23,179
him but they were involved in law

822
00:31:28,720 --> 00:31:26,390
enforcement and covered it up and so you

823
00:31:30,460 --> 00:31:28,730
know it was a drawn-out trial people

824
00:31:32,590 --> 00:31:30,470
don't realize they went on for years

825
00:31:35,710 --> 00:31:32,600
there was a dozens of indictments and

826
00:31:37,330 --> 00:31:35,720
many Mason's did go to jail but no one

827
00:31:39,130 --> 00:31:37,340
was ever found guilty of murder they

828
00:31:41,860 --> 00:31:39,140
were only ever found guilty of abduction

829
00:31:42,850 --> 00:31:41,870
and and you know he William Morgan was

830
00:31:45,700 --> 00:31:42,860
never seen again

831
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:45,710
after that time Freemasonry shut down in

832
00:31:49,090 --> 00:31:47,360
places like Vermont New Hampshire in New

833
00:31:52,210 --> 00:31:49,100
York for a while where it's completely

834
00:31:54,730 --> 00:31:52,220
deactivated but as it began to resurface

835
00:31:57,220 --> 00:31:54,740
and there was also a huge social uproar

836
00:31:59,950 --> 00:31:57,230
a giant anti Mason party which was the

837
00:32:02,289 --> 00:31:59,960
first third party in America became the

838
00:32:04,269 --> 00:32:02,299
result of this anti Mason fervor that

839
00:32:06,669 --> 00:32:04,279
rose up from what happened in a place

840
00:32:09,460 --> 00:32:06,679
called Batavia New York in the Hudson

841
00:32:11,380 --> 00:32:09,470
River Valley region same place where the

842
00:32:13,060 --> 00:32:11,390
Sleepy Hollow you know in the same place

843
00:32:16,570 --> 00:32:13,070
where Joseph Smith came from which was

844
00:32:18,580 --> 00:32:16,580
Palmyra right next door so you know we

845
00:32:20,470 --> 00:32:18,590
also stayed there Mader X and I stayed

846
00:32:24,130 --> 00:32:20,480
there when we drove across country in

847
00:32:28,139 --> 00:32:24,140
the 90s late 90s we stayed in that same

848
00:32:30,940 --> 00:32:28,149
area ironically as where the captain

849
00:32:33,460 --> 00:32:30,950
William Morgan disappeared but when that

850
00:32:35,230 --> 00:32:33,470
happened they needed to churn out some

851
00:32:36,519 --> 00:32:35,240
sort of huge you can imagine right Greg

852
00:32:38,940 --> 00:32:36,529
they had to turn out some sort of huge

853
00:32:43,029 --> 00:32:38,950
PR campaign to turn this around you know

854
00:32:44,740 --> 00:32:43,039
spin this so Mason's began to give away

855
00:32:46,289 --> 00:32:44,750
stuff like nobody's business right I

856
00:32:48,850 --> 00:32:46,299
mean that's really why they're out there

857
00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:48,860
celebrating all the charitable part of

858
00:32:52,000 --> 00:32:50,480
it is they're helping people to put a

859
00:32:54,159 --> 00:32:52,010
good look on it right that's the surface

860
00:32:56,889 --> 00:32:54,169
but then behind the scenes we've talked

861
00:32:58,269 --> 00:32:56,899
to guys that are insiders in the

862
00:32:59,060 --> 00:32:58,279
leadership I mean there were people who

863
00:33:01,610 --> 00:32:59,070
were on

864
00:33:03,170 --> 00:33:01,620
well who are talking to me I interviewed

865
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:03,180
a lot of people who wouldn't let me use

866
00:33:08,090 --> 00:33:05,370
their name you know they wouldn't let me

867
00:33:09,410 --> 00:33:08,100
reveal the source and I didn't include

868
00:33:11,210 --> 00:33:09,420
some of that stuff in the book because I

869
00:33:14,330 --> 00:33:11,220
didn't want to just throw out all kinds

870
00:33:16,010 --> 00:33:14,340
of baseless you know stuff without their

871
00:33:18,080 --> 00:33:16,020
verification but I can tell everybody

872
00:33:20,300 --> 00:33:18,090
right now that I heard all kinds of

873
00:33:22,100 --> 00:33:20,310
stories of corruption and nepotism and I

874
00:33:24,050 --> 00:33:22,110
heard stories of where they transferred

875
00:33:26,630 --> 00:33:24,060
funds back and forth between Masonic

876
00:33:28,010 --> 00:33:26,640
organizations as a laundering you know a

877
00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:28,020
back and forth to where you could lose

878
00:33:32,360 --> 00:33:29,610
thousands of dollars in the exchange

879
00:33:33,860 --> 00:33:32,370
here and there and it's all connected to

880
00:33:35,990 --> 00:33:33,870
this it's all hearsay right now on the

881
00:33:37,910 --> 00:33:36,000
radio I mean Who am I I'm just telling

882
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:37,920
you what other people told me but the

883
00:33:41,240 --> 00:33:39,330
fact of the matter is is that there's

884
00:33:42,440 --> 00:33:41,250
even anybody out there who is these

885
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:42,450
people who are high up leadership

886
00:33:46,730 --> 00:33:44,610
connected this isn't just idle

887
00:33:47,930 --> 00:33:46,740
information these are people that the

888
00:33:50,900 --> 00:33:47,940
average person is not going to get to

889
00:33:53,840 --> 00:33:50,910
say these things and so that's what

890
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:53,850
we're doing with man so let's make it

891
00:33:57,320 --> 00:33:55,770
weird for a second let's let's get to

892
00:33:59,570 --> 00:33:57,330
some weird places what are your thoughts

893
00:34:00,950 --> 00:33:59,580
on the idea that at the top of these

894
00:34:02,990 --> 00:34:00,960
fraternal orders they're usually

895
00:34:05,600 --> 00:34:03,000
participating in some kind of sustained

896
00:34:07,010 --> 00:34:05,610
ongoing contact with some non-human

897
00:34:08,270 --> 00:34:07,020
entities do you think that's a big part

898
00:34:10,550 --> 00:34:08,280
of the high level secrets or is that

899
00:34:12,080 --> 00:34:10,560
just rumors no I and you know we did

900
00:34:14,240 --> 00:34:12,090
talk we covered this a little bit in our

901
00:34:16,880 --> 00:34:14,250
last conversation I feel like there's

902
00:34:18,590 --> 00:34:16,890
some huge substantiation to this I think

903
00:34:21,050 --> 00:34:18,600
that there's quite the possibility

904
00:34:23,240 --> 00:34:21,060
because from all of my researches and

905
00:34:25,730 --> 00:34:23,250
experiences and I've really looked at

906
00:34:28,750 --> 00:34:25,740
this a lot Greg I think that there is

907
00:34:31,730 --> 00:34:28,760
the the greatest possibility of a

908
00:34:34,490 --> 00:34:31,740
sustained contact as you put it from

909
00:34:35,090 --> 00:34:34,500
ritualized behavior with disembodied

910
00:34:37,909 --> 00:34:35,100
spirits

911
00:34:42,350 --> 00:34:37,919
that's absolutely plausible in my

912
00:34:43,610 --> 00:34:42,360
universe anyways well let's break it

913
00:34:45,230 --> 00:34:43,620
down a little for the listeners to kind

914
00:34:47,090 --> 00:34:45,240
of get more specific about what we're

915
00:34:47,720 --> 00:34:47,100
talking about here so there's a book out

916
00:34:49,460 --> 00:34:47,730
there called

917
00:34:51,919 --> 00:34:49,470
inside the magical Lodge written by a

918
00:34:54,050 --> 00:34:51,929
guy named John Michael Greer and in this

919
00:34:56,060 --> 00:34:54,060
book he is a man who spent decades

920
00:34:58,460 --> 00:34:56,070
working in the Golden Dawn magical

921
00:35:00,470 --> 00:34:58,470
system where they do ritual ceremonial

922
00:35:03,260 --> 00:35:00,480
magic on a regular basis which means

923
00:35:05,330 --> 00:35:03,270
they have a lodge space that they banish

924
00:35:07,850 --> 00:35:05,340
the energy they literally cleanse the

925
00:35:10,070 --> 00:35:07,860
energy creating a vacuum on an etheric

926
00:35:12,349 --> 00:35:10,080
level and we're getting weird right on

927
00:35:14,720 --> 00:35:12,359
an ambient energetic level

928
00:35:17,239 --> 00:35:14,730
they they just cleanse this area and

929
00:35:19,910 --> 00:35:17,249
what it's like Gregg it's like if you

930
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:19,920
were to like in Dragon Ball Z right

931
00:35:24,710 --> 00:35:22,410
that's that you know calm a there's a

932
00:35:27,079 --> 00:35:24,720
particular right yeah the protective

933
00:35:28,670 --> 00:35:27,089
bubble around the characters right that

934
00:35:31,400 --> 00:35:28,680
that's what like you'd imagine a

935
00:35:33,950 --> 00:35:31,410
nine-foot sphere around you where you're

936
00:35:36,049 --> 00:35:33,960
saying I'm holding back all the cosmic

937
00:35:37,819 --> 00:35:36,059
energies in the universe for this time

938
00:35:39,950 --> 00:35:37,829
while I'm doing this magical ritual

939
00:35:42,259 --> 00:35:39,960
they'll all hold back outside that

940
00:35:45,589 --> 00:35:42,269
sphere and then you'll say I now allow

941
00:35:47,589 --> 00:35:45,599
only this this version of magic or this

942
00:35:49,819 --> 00:35:47,599
version of energy this current of

943
00:35:50,960 --> 00:35:49,829
energetic force to come into the circle

944
00:35:53,120 --> 00:35:50,970
and I work with it now and then I'll

945
00:35:55,519 --> 00:35:53,130
bring in this elemental force and I'll

946
00:35:57,739 --> 00:35:55,529
work with it now you know so you're

947
00:35:59,599 --> 00:35:57,749
you're you're basically and then at the

948
00:36:01,460 --> 00:35:59,609
end of it all when you banish the circle

949
00:36:03,499 --> 00:36:01,470
again when you're done all the energies

950
00:36:05,839 --> 00:36:03,509
of the cosmos splash back into that

951
00:36:08,089 --> 00:36:05,849
space because they h ER of a [\h__\h] of

952
00:36:09,859 --> 00:36:08,099
vacuum and rushes back in and if you've

953
00:36:12,289 --> 00:36:09,869
done your magic right according to the

954
00:36:13,970 --> 00:36:12,299
magical tradition the the will the thing

955
00:36:16,549 --> 00:36:13,980
that you've manifested with your will

956
00:36:18,109 --> 00:36:16,559
will be buoyant in that current of

957
00:36:19,789 --> 00:36:18,119
cosmos and be carried to its destination

958
00:36:21,620 --> 00:36:19,799
it's likely course where it's supposed

959
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:21,630
to go what you want to accomplish with

960
00:36:27,890 --> 00:36:24,170
the outcome of the results you seek so

961
00:36:29,359 --> 00:36:27,900
this guy john michael greer he had years

962
00:36:30,739 --> 00:36:29,369
and years of experience in doing this

963
00:36:33,380 --> 00:36:30,749
sort of thing with the groups of people

964
00:36:36,890 --> 00:36:33,390
in lodges because the golden dawn as

965
00:36:40,309 --> 00:36:36,900
with the OTO as with hundreds of other

966
00:36:42,769 --> 00:36:40,319
magical orders they meet in Masonic

967
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:42,779
lodges in every city and state you know

968
00:36:47,059 --> 00:36:45,450
city in town in America mm-hmm so these

969
00:36:49,069 --> 00:36:47,069
that's what people need to keep in mind

970
00:36:50,390 --> 00:36:49,079
when you think well a guy will come on

971
00:36:52,400 --> 00:36:50,400
and say hey amazing they're just guys

972
00:36:53,930 --> 00:36:52,410
having barbecues and they're you know

973
00:36:56,210 --> 00:36:53,940
they're doing this that it's just about

974
00:36:57,349 --> 00:36:56,220
bake sales and pancake breakfast is and

975
00:36:59,210 --> 00:36:57,359
that's all it really is and you know

976
00:37:01,400 --> 00:36:59,220
raising funds and money charities for

977
00:37:03,589 --> 00:37:01,410
the children's funds and all that that's

978
00:37:05,930 --> 00:37:03,599
all well and fine that may be just quite

979
00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:05,940
so but they also rent that space the

980
00:37:08,620 --> 00:37:06,930
other nights of the week when they're

981
00:37:12,170 --> 00:37:08,630
not meeting two other

982
00:37:14,660 --> 00:37:12,180
quasi Masonic organisations and some of

983
00:37:16,460 --> 00:37:14,670
those include the OTO which was founded

984
00:37:18,829 --> 00:37:16,470
by or at least brought to America by

985
00:37:20,960 --> 00:37:18,839
Aleister Crowley and the Golden Dawn

986
00:37:23,269 --> 00:37:20,970
which is all the Victorian magicians

987
00:37:24,380 --> 00:37:23,279
from you know Scotland and Ireland and

988
00:37:26,359 --> 00:37:24,390
England and other place

989
00:37:29,240 --> 00:37:26,369
in Europe who also brought it over here

990
00:37:31,730 --> 00:37:29,250
to America so it's a lot of stuff's

991
00:37:34,279 --> 00:37:31,740
going on there that may not be you know

992
00:37:38,930 --> 00:37:34,289
quite what people expect in a Masonic

993
00:37:41,329 --> 00:37:38,940
Lodge and so ceremonial magic is part of

994
00:37:43,819 --> 00:37:41,339
this Greg and this book II wrote called

995
00:37:46,430 --> 00:37:43,829
inside the magical Lodge talks about how

996
00:37:48,740 --> 00:37:46,440
a ritual space a Masonic Lodge which has

997
00:37:50,750 --> 00:37:48,750
an altar which has a square box in the

998
00:37:53,059 --> 00:37:50,760
center of the room with the three lights

999
00:37:55,849 --> 00:37:53,069
of masonry around it you know each each

1000
00:37:56,299 --> 00:37:55,859
wall in the room is a direction on the

1001
00:37:58,490 --> 00:37:56,309
compass

1002
00:38:00,500 --> 00:37:58,500
you know north south east and west and

1003
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:00,510
there there's a chair there and there's

1004
00:38:05,329 --> 00:38:02,130
a station there and that's all in

1005
00:38:07,519 --> 00:38:05,339
accordance with this idea of cross road

1006
00:38:09,650 --> 00:38:07,529
governors or demons you know like the

1007
00:38:11,329 --> 00:38:09,660
idea of there being 91 parts to the

1008
00:38:13,789 --> 00:38:11,339
earth that are all divided on this grid

1009
00:38:15,890 --> 00:38:13,799
and in every spot there's a governor a

1010
00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:15,900
king and a prince and that's what the

1011
00:38:19,819 --> 00:38:17,490
words are used according to John Dee's

1012
00:38:22,339 --> 00:38:19,829
system and you end up with this idea of

1013
00:38:25,430 --> 00:38:22,349
these entities these disembodied spirits

1014
00:38:28,730 --> 00:38:25,440
who literally govern that exact spot on

1015
00:38:30,980 --> 00:38:28,740
the earth so if you built a lodge for

1016
00:38:33,410 --> 00:38:30,990
example I'm one of those really potent

1017
00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:33,420
gridline criss-cross places where you

1018
00:38:38,900 --> 00:38:36,210
have a dozen governors and kings and

1019
00:38:41,240 --> 00:38:38,910
princes of the demonic world and demon

1020
00:38:43,249 --> 00:38:41,250
in the Greek means disembodied spirit

1021
00:38:45,109 --> 00:38:43,259
daemon is it is a disembodied spirit you

1022
00:38:47,269 --> 00:38:45,119
know so if you had a building that

1023
00:38:49,819 --> 00:38:47,279
you've built on that spot or a temple

1024
00:38:53,029 --> 00:38:49,829
you know or a church and then everybody

1025
00:38:55,730 --> 00:38:53,039
met regularly weekly daily monthly in

1026
00:38:57,499 --> 00:38:55,740
all these holy days and on the specific

1027
00:39:00,740 --> 00:38:57,509
kalindra chol days when all the all

1028
00:39:04,779 --> 00:39:00,750
everything you know works in a cycle

1029
00:39:08,329 --> 00:39:04,789
right so you have all the all the

1030
00:39:11,740 --> 00:39:08,339
zodiacal signs aligning and you all come

1031
00:39:15,609 --> 00:39:11,750
together and you do a ritual every that

1032
00:39:18,559 --> 00:39:15,619
attracts disembodied spirits that brings

1033
00:39:20,569 --> 00:39:18,569
disembodied spirits to that spot over

1034
00:39:22,519 --> 00:39:20,579
and over again and after a while they'll

1035
00:39:25,069 --> 00:39:22,529
take on a life of their own and they'll

1036
00:39:27,079 --> 00:39:25,079
start to see they want to keep that that

1037
00:39:28,849 --> 00:39:27,089
gathering going they want to keep that

1038
00:39:31,190 --> 00:39:28,859
activity going they want to attract new

1039
00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:31,200
members they want to bring the same

1040
00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:33,430
like-minded people into that room

1041
00:39:38,970 --> 00:39:36,130
keep them coming back so you see how

1042
00:39:42,390 --> 00:39:38,980
that would just keep evolving right yeah

1043
00:39:43,230 --> 00:39:42,400
man and this idea of magic in these

1044
00:39:45,000 --> 00:39:43,240
organizations

1045
00:39:46,650 --> 00:39:45,010
I like the interface between that and

1046
00:39:48,540 --> 00:39:46,660
money and you write a little bit about

1047
00:39:50,099 --> 00:39:48,550
the bank store thugs in this book and we

1048
00:39:51,750 --> 00:39:50,109
talked a little bit about it last time

1049
00:39:53,280 --> 00:39:51,760
but it's such an interesting area to me

1050
00:39:55,290 --> 00:39:53,290
because obviously the whole world is

1051
00:39:57,750 --> 00:39:55,300
operated by money but it wasn't always

1052
00:39:59,760 --> 00:39:57,760
finance and commerce had to be invented

1053
00:40:01,440 --> 00:39:59,770
and when you look back and you see this

1054
00:40:03,900 --> 00:40:01,450
super close association between

1055
00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:03,910
religions and monetary systems priests

1056
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:06,490
and money changers it makes me even more

1057
00:40:10,410 --> 00:40:08,770
intrigued by this idea that money might

1058
00:40:13,170 --> 00:40:10,420
be the ultimate magic it might be some

1059
00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:13,180
direct manifestation from this sustained

1060
00:40:17,549 --> 00:40:15,730
contact of this like spiritual parasite

1061
00:40:19,650 --> 00:40:17,559
because it operates with almost the same

1062
00:40:20,490 --> 00:40:19,660
quality of possession in our world I

1063
00:40:23,250 --> 00:40:20,500
mean what do you think

1064
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:23,260
well absolutely money is the talismanic

1065
00:40:29,160 --> 00:40:26,530
tool of the mind parasites right of the

1066
00:40:31,140 --> 00:40:29,170
the invading pathogen that has entered

1067
00:40:33,900 --> 00:40:31,150
human consciousness at some point along

1068
00:40:36,210 --> 00:40:33,910
our journey you know as a species this

1069
00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:36,220
outside or in inner or outer you know

1070
00:40:40,650 --> 00:40:38,410
intro species or outer species predator

1071
00:40:42,420 --> 00:40:40,660
showed up and one of the tools that is

1072
00:40:44,880 --> 00:40:42,430
used is this mystification this

1073
00:40:47,370 --> 00:40:44,890
captivation through sigil through

1074
00:40:49,530 --> 00:40:47,380
talisman through money money of the

1075
00:40:52,430 --> 00:40:49,540
dollar itself I mean the symbols all

1076
00:40:54,750 --> 00:40:52,440
over it it's it's it's you know

1077
00:40:56,490 --> 00:40:54,760
fascinating to think about in an

1078
00:40:58,230 --> 00:40:56,500
objective way but of course subjectively

1079
00:41:00,780 --> 00:40:58,240
you know we're enslaved by it it's

1080
00:41:02,549 --> 00:41:00,790
absolutely correct I still am struggling

1081
00:41:04,319 --> 00:41:02,559
with the way around us and let's not be

1082
00:41:07,620 --> 00:41:04,329
mistaken to all the listeners out there

1083
00:41:09,359 --> 00:41:07,630
you know my my motivation to know the

1084
00:41:11,370 --> 00:41:09,369
truth and to find the truth there was a

1085
00:41:13,470 --> 00:41:11,380
there was a mercenary side to it guys I

1086
00:41:15,240 --> 00:41:13,480
mean I wanted to be on the advantage

1087
00:41:17,700 --> 00:41:15,250
side instead of the disadvantage side

1088
00:41:20,250 --> 00:41:17,710
because I felt disempowered as a person

1089
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:20,260
I felt them completely out of touch with

1090
00:41:25,620 --> 00:41:22,690
all this metaphysical reality or the

1091
00:41:27,990 --> 00:41:25,630
idea of any of this elemental nature or

1092
00:41:31,710 --> 00:41:28,000
any of it being real it's all it was all

1093
00:41:33,569 --> 00:41:31,720
fantastical and not not clearly not in

1094
00:41:35,670 --> 00:41:33,579
my everyday experience you know as a

1095
00:41:38,190 --> 00:41:35,680
person in the social structure of

1096
00:41:40,200 --> 00:41:38,200
America working and slaving away trying

1097
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:40,210
to pay the bills but I felt like I

1098
00:41:46,559 --> 00:41:43,569
sought some sort of advantage I wanted

1099
00:41:46,950 --> 00:41:46,569
to be rien I thought to myself if there

1100
00:41:49,050 --> 00:41:46,960
you

1101
00:41:51,390 --> 00:41:49,060
using these tools and I believe that

1102
00:41:53,880 --> 00:41:51,400
they are the birthright of all of ours

1103
00:41:56,730 --> 00:41:53,890
Western people you know you Greg I

1104
00:41:59,760 --> 00:41:56,740
assume you're anglo-saxon you know just

1105
00:42:01,980 --> 00:41:59,770
sent mostly just like me so we are of

1106
00:42:03,780 --> 00:42:01,990
those what I call the Europan tribal

1107
00:42:06,300 --> 00:42:03,790
peoples you know like the ones that were

1108
00:42:08,609 --> 00:42:06,310
conquered in the same way that Plains

1109
00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:08,619
Indians of America were conquered these

1110
00:42:12,630 --> 00:42:10,570
these European people were conquered a

1111
00:42:15,300 --> 00:42:12,640
thousand years before by the same sort

1112
00:42:17,700 --> 00:42:15,310
of church system that Abrahamic

1113
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:17,710
religious infestation which tries to

1114
00:42:22,109 --> 00:42:20,050
tell us all that were fallen and we need

1115
00:42:23,849 --> 00:42:22,119
Redemption and we need salvation you

1116
00:42:24,930 --> 00:42:23,859
know and not that we're born with

1117
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:24,940
everything we need and we just need to

1118
00:42:28,890 --> 00:42:26,770
wake up and realize it you know and and

1119
00:42:31,620 --> 00:42:28,900
so when you asked about the the the

1120
00:42:33,630 --> 00:42:31,630
power brokers all ever since this

1121
00:42:35,760 --> 00:42:33,640
particular paradigm was launched which

1122
00:42:37,800 --> 00:42:35,770
probably happened 10,000 years ago just

1123
00:42:40,020 --> 00:42:37,810
to throw a number out there ever since

1124
00:42:42,839 --> 00:42:40,030
it was launched we've had a priesthood

1125
00:42:44,280 --> 00:42:42,849
in place that has used money or currency

1126
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:44,290
in some form

1127
00:42:47,820 --> 00:42:45,970
you know the exchange of goods and

1128
00:42:51,930 --> 00:42:47,830
services has been a part of this plan

1129
00:42:54,390 --> 00:42:51,940
the accumulation of wealth the the

1130
00:42:57,300 --> 00:42:54,400
creation of scarcity and shortage in

1131
00:42:59,520 --> 00:42:57,310
order to get people enslaved to others

1132
00:43:02,010 --> 00:42:59,530
you know and the maintaining of that

1133
00:43:03,839 --> 00:43:02,020
myth of scarcity and shortages to keep

1134
00:43:06,329 --> 00:43:03,849
everybody really reinforcing that

1135
00:43:08,010 --> 00:43:06,339
paradigm and in America was no different

1136
00:43:10,859 --> 00:43:08,020
with the end of the revolution you know

1137
00:43:12,990 --> 00:43:10,869
you had America wide open and everybody

1138
00:43:14,460 --> 00:43:13,000
knows that the central banking in

1139
00:43:16,770 --> 00:43:14,470
America was established they had the

1140
00:43:19,260 --> 00:43:16,780
Charter signed before the Treaty of

1141
00:43:21,089 --> 00:43:19,270
Paris before they stopped the war

1142
00:43:22,560 --> 00:43:21,099
between America and England they already

1143
00:43:24,599 --> 00:43:22,570
had a center central bank for the new

1144
00:43:26,910 --> 00:43:24,609
government set up that's how important

1145
00:43:28,650 --> 00:43:26,920
this was right and then and this is the

1146
00:43:30,810 --> 00:43:28,660
priority and who was the guy that was

1147
00:43:32,609 --> 00:43:30,820
broker in that deal everybody our old

1148
00:43:34,589 --> 00:43:32,619
friend Alexander Hamilton who obviously

1149
00:43:37,020 --> 00:43:34,599
had connections with the Rothschilds in

1150
00:43:39,240 --> 00:43:37,030
the foreign banking exchanges and this

1151
00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:39,250
Rothschild connection I'm not I only

1152
00:43:42,210 --> 00:43:40,810
know what I've read just like everybody

1153
00:43:43,890 --> 00:43:42,220
else has read the Anthony Sutton books

1154
00:43:45,540 --> 00:43:43,900
out there and all the other material

1155
00:43:48,030 --> 00:43:45,550
that anybody could find to talk about

1156
00:43:50,010 --> 00:43:48,040
what we think is going on there whether

1157
00:43:52,109 --> 00:43:50,020
or not any of that's true what I know is

1158
00:43:53,730 --> 00:43:52,119
the results you know the results are

1159
00:43:56,190 --> 00:43:53,740
that a central bank was set up in

1160
00:43:58,480 --> 00:43:56,200
America that basically just totally

1161
00:43:59,890 --> 00:43:58,490
extracted the wealth everywhere around

1162
00:44:01,770 --> 00:43:59,900
to the point where it left such

1163
00:44:04,120 --> 00:44:01,780
financial ruin in its wake it wasn't

1164
00:44:06,430 --> 00:44:04,130
really did not renew the Charter for

1165
00:44:08,380 --> 00:44:06,440
that central back that tells you that

1166
00:44:11,410 --> 00:44:08,390
wasn't effective for the people who

1167
00:44:13,630 --> 00:44:11,420
thought they had Liberty in America but

1168
00:44:15,520 --> 00:44:13,640
this is how it moves forward everybody

1169
00:44:16,930 --> 00:44:15,530
and everybody when you think about the

1170
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:16,940
assassinated presidents in American

1171
00:44:21,190 --> 00:44:19,850
history you know the only president in

1172
00:44:23,140 --> 00:44:21,200
American history to ever fight the

1173
00:44:26,910 --> 00:44:23,150
central bank and not be shot in the head

1174
00:44:30,070 --> 00:44:26,920
in public was Andrew Jackson you know

1175
00:44:31,690 --> 00:44:30,080
he's the only one that's we remember

1176
00:44:33,550 --> 00:44:31,700
Andrew Jackson and they honor him by

1177
00:44:37,060 --> 00:44:33,560
putting him on the fiat currency he was

1178
00:44:39,070 --> 00:44:37,070
against exactly and what do we remember

1179
00:44:40,660 --> 00:44:39,080
about him he was a general he had an

1180
00:44:42,490 --> 00:44:40,670
army of standing army around him at all

1181
00:44:45,010 --> 00:44:42,500
times of Calvary now that's how he

1182
00:44:47,170 --> 00:44:45,020
enforced his policies really you know

1183
00:44:51,750 --> 00:44:47,180
and of course right in the end the irony

1184
00:44:56,320 --> 00:44:54,580
fascinating thread and the Knights

1185
00:44:58,120 --> 00:44:56,330
Templar a big part of it if you go back

1186
00:44:59,290 --> 00:44:58,130
further I know you were kind of involved

1187
00:45:00,670 --> 00:44:59,300
I think that was one of the groups who

1188
00:45:03,099 --> 00:45:00,680
were affiliated with the modern Knights

1189
00:45:04,630 --> 00:45:03,109
Templar but in the past it's a pretty

1190
00:45:06,010 --> 00:45:04,640
fascinating story because I as I

1191
00:45:08,410 --> 00:45:06,020
understand it they amassed a lot of

1192
00:45:10,450 --> 00:45:08,420
wealth using banking tricks and issuing

1193
00:45:11,500 --> 00:45:10,460
credit and then when King Philip

1194
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:11,510
tortured them and burned him at the

1195
00:45:15,609 --> 00:45:14,090
stake they had to disclose a lot of

1196
00:45:17,800 --> 00:45:15,619
where those ideas came from and they

1197
00:45:19,450 --> 00:45:17,810
kept mentioning rituals he's communing

1198
00:45:21,430 --> 00:45:19,460
with some kind of entities that guided

1199
00:45:23,980 --> 00:45:21,440
him and it seems to be one of those rare

1200
00:45:25,630 --> 00:45:23,990
times where we get the kind of insight

1201
00:45:27,550 --> 00:45:25,640
we're looking for into this thread

1202
00:45:29,070 --> 00:45:27,560
okay so there's two parts to this

1203
00:45:32,080 --> 00:45:29,080
question and the answers are really

1204
00:45:34,540 --> 00:45:32,090
manifold because we have to consider

1205
00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:34,550
okay what we know about torture right I

1206
00:45:39,370 --> 00:45:36,650
mean I've never been tortured like

1207
00:45:40,990 --> 00:45:39,380
officially by any you know standard that

1208
00:45:42,130 --> 00:45:41,000
you could you know set as a torture

1209
00:45:43,750 --> 00:45:42,140
standard that's never happened to me I

1210
00:45:46,330 --> 00:45:43,760
don't know about you Greg but I can

1211
00:45:48,820 --> 00:45:46,340
imagine from what I've heard described

1212
00:45:50,440 --> 00:45:48,830
and read described that you know if I

1213
00:45:52,270 --> 00:45:50,450
was tortured I would just say whatever I

1214
00:45:54,220 --> 00:45:52,280
had to say to get it to stop and that's

1215
00:45:56,500 --> 00:45:54,230
what happened with these Knights Templar

1216
00:45:58,270 --> 00:45:56,510
I mean they literally burned the bottom

1217
00:46:01,330 --> 00:45:58,280
of their feet still the bones fell out

1218
00:46:03,820 --> 00:46:01,340
that's how it's described with hot hot

1219
00:46:05,410 --> 00:46:03,830
irons so they melted the bottom of their

1220
00:46:08,380 --> 00:46:05,420
feet until the little bones and their

1221
00:46:09,820 --> 00:46:08,390
feet fell out onto the floor so so

1222
00:46:11,390 --> 00:46:09,830
that's these are the guys that they got

1223
00:46:13,519 --> 00:46:11,400
all that information written down for

1224
00:46:15,319 --> 00:46:13,529
fair fair point it's good I guess it's

1225
00:46:16,730 --> 00:46:15,329
worth noting that we got a note that

1226
00:46:17,900 --> 00:46:16,740
ahead of time okay

1227
00:46:20,359 --> 00:46:17,910
but having said that there was

1228
00:46:22,870 --> 00:46:20,369
absolutely something heretical going on

1229
00:46:25,249 --> 00:46:22,880
within the Knights Templar of old

1230
00:46:28,249 --> 00:46:25,259
absolutely we know that that that is the

1231
00:46:29,900 --> 00:46:28,259
case we've we verified that but would as

1232
00:46:31,579 --> 00:46:29,910
to the specifics that were come you know

1233
00:46:34,069 --> 00:46:31,589
gotten from the torture confessions I

1234
00:46:36,230 --> 00:46:34,079
don't know how much I can you know deny

1235
00:46:38,660 --> 00:46:36,240
or a support there because of of that

1236
00:46:40,430 --> 00:46:38,670
fact about torture you know but putting

1237
00:46:42,200 --> 00:46:40,440
that aside for a second we know that the

1238
00:46:44,120 --> 00:46:42,210
Templars were absolutely the early

1239
00:46:46,400 --> 00:46:44,130
bankers they set up a currency so

1240
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:46,410
basically if you were a rich Noble in

1241
00:46:50,089 --> 00:46:48,930
Europe you wanted to go to the Crusades

1242
00:46:52,039 --> 00:46:50,099
you want to go to the Holy Land or

1243
00:46:54,049 --> 00:46:52,049
whatever you could go to local Templar

1244
00:46:56,120 --> 00:46:54,059
commandery and and you could you know

1245
00:46:58,039 --> 00:46:56,130
deposit amount of gold in there

1246
00:47:00,980 --> 00:46:58,049
commander they would give you a sigil

1247
00:47:02,839 --> 00:47:00,990
ated piece of you know this CD a

1248
00:47:05,150 --> 00:47:02,849
certificate of deposit that would have

1249
00:47:06,920 --> 00:47:05,160
their fancy seal on it and you could

1250
00:47:08,809 --> 00:47:06,930
travel anywhere where there was another

1251
00:47:10,849 --> 00:47:08,819
Templar commandery and cash it in for

1252
00:47:13,039 --> 00:47:10,859
gold and that was the early currency

1253
00:47:15,640 --> 00:47:13,049
exchange so they add that now the order

1254
00:47:19,519 --> 00:47:15,650
I belong to is a little bit tricky

1255
00:47:22,880 --> 00:47:19,529
because the Masonic Knights Templar

1256
00:47:25,729 --> 00:47:22,890
order is not the original order of

1257
00:47:28,220 --> 00:47:25,739
Knights Templar it's not at all I mean

1258
00:47:30,079 --> 00:47:28,230
the ideas of the Holy Blood Holy Grail

1259
00:47:32,779 --> 00:47:30,089
notwithstanding any of that because

1260
00:47:36,019 --> 00:47:32,789
within the statement I must qualify that

1261
00:47:38,690 --> 00:47:36,029
there is I believe another you know

1262
00:47:40,970 --> 00:47:38,700
almost secret Templar tradition that's

1263
00:47:44,120 --> 00:47:40,980
traveling right alongside the official

1264
00:47:45,710 --> 00:47:44,130
Masonic Knights Templar order that may

1265
00:47:48,529 --> 00:47:45,720
have connections that go all the way

1266
00:47:50,720 --> 00:47:48,539
back at least to like you know King

1267
00:47:52,729 --> 00:47:50,730
Robert the Bruce and his Battle of

1268
00:47:54,769 --> 00:47:52,739
Veronica and where this mysterious

1269
00:47:56,630 --> 00:47:54,779
Calvary shows up and everybody claims

1270
00:48:00,259 --> 00:47:56,640
that's the Knights Templar who had fled

1271
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:00,269
from the betrayal of Pope Clement and

1272
00:48:05,390 --> 00:48:03,210
King Philip the fair in France so that's

1273
00:48:07,759 --> 00:48:05,400
the that's the story and I've heard it

1274
00:48:10,279 --> 00:48:07,769
too but what I can tell you is best

1275
00:48:12,410 --> 00:48:10,289
being a former member of the Masonic

1276
00:48:14,450 --> 00:48:12,420
Knights Templar in America as that order

1277
00:48:16,519 --> 00:48:14,460
is not the original Knights Templar

1278
00:48:19,999 --> 00:48:16,529
order you know what it is is a

1279
00:48:21,890 --> 00:48:20,009
paramilitary order from like the you

1280
00:48:25,760 --> 00:48:21,900
know a Victorian era

1281
00:48:27,410 --> 00:48:25,770
you know Civil War mentality in America

1282
00:48:30,380 --> 00:48:27,420
you know and as a matter of fact Mark

1283
00:48:32,630 --> 00:48:30,390
Twain he actually blamed he said that we

1284
00:48:35,420 --> 00:48:32,640
that Walter Scott Sir Walter Scott who

1285
00:48:37,670 --> 00:48:35,430
wrote Ivanhoe and also wrote Rob Roy

1286
00:48:39,800 --> 00:48:37,680
should be blamed for the Civil War

1287
00:48:42,110 --> 00:48:39,810
because he infested the southern mind

1288
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:42,120
with this idea of chivalry and the idea

1289
00:48:45,980 --> 00:48:43,770
of these Knights riding across the land

1290
00:48:47,780 --> 00:48:45,990
like our theory in Knights doing good

1291
00:48:49,520 --> 00:48:47,790
deeds and saving damsels and you know

1292
00:48:51,440 --> 00:48:49,530
defending Dixie and all this and this

1293
00:48:53,150 --> 00:48:51,450
was like the the core and so in the end

1294
00:48:55,640 --> 00:48:53,160
of the end days of that that time period

1295
00:48:57,590 --> 00:48:55,650
in America if you most most people were

1296
00:49:00,110 --> 00:48:57,600
affected by the Civil War most men who

1297
00:49:02,030 --> 00:49:00,120
were able-bodied served and so they got

1298
00:49:03,950 --> 00:49:02,040
that true to that experience but for

1299
00:49:05,690 --> 00:49:03,960
those who didn't they could join a

1300
00:49:08,360 --> 00:49:05,700
paramilitary order like the Knights

1301
00:49:10,850 --> 00:49:08,370
Templar in America and rub elbows with

1302
00:49:14,350 --> 00:49:10,860
the former Civil War veterans as equals

1303
00:49:16,220 --> 00:49:14,360
doing drills formations and marching in

1304
00:49:19,700 --> 00:49:16,230
paramilitary outfits that looked like

1305
00:49:20,930 --> 00:49:19,710
civil war officers so that was really

1306
00:49:23,060 --> 00:49:20,940
what it was going on there and that's

1307
00:49:24,470 --> 00:49:23,070
where we have this infestation of the

1308
00:49:26,900 --> 00:49:24,480
Illuminati that we alluded to before

1309
00:49:28,580 --> 00:49:26,910
when I talked about Albert Pike Albert

1310
00:49:32,210 --> 00:49:28,590
Pike had an associate in Europe named

1311
00:49:35,300 --> 00:49:32,220
Carlo Mazzini Mazzini was the head of

1312
00:49:36,820 --> 00:49:35,310
the Italian Illuminati quote-unquote you

1313
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:36,830
know the inheritors of that same

1314
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:38,610
tradition and what tradition are we

1315
00:49:43,970 --> 00:49:40,410
talking about we're not talking about

1316
00:49:45,800 --> 00:49:43,980
the specific system the ideology of Adam

1317
00:49:48,650 --> 00:49:45,810
West Schaaf what he presented was a

1318
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:48,660
utopian ideology what we're talking

1319
00:49:54,680 --> 00:49:51,930
about is the PlayBook he used to

1320
00:49:57,890 --> 00:49:54,690
disseminate his order which was they

1321
00:50:00,500 --> 00:49:57,900
attached themselves to Freemasonry and

1322
00:50:03,980 --> 00:50:00,510
they recruited from the rank-and-file of

1323
00:50:06,440 --> 00:50:03,990
free Masonic lodges in Bavaria at the

1324
00:50:08,360 --> 00:50:06,450
time and that's exactly what Mazzini did

1325
00:50:10,220 --> 00:50:08,370
he did the same thing in Italy and they

1326
00:50:12,830 --> 00:50:10,230
created what were called young young

1327
00:50:14,540 --> 00:50:12,840
Italy lodges and these young Italians

1328
00:50:17,870 --> 00:50:14,550
were recruited from the ranks and

1329
00:50:20,600 --> 00:50:17,880
brought into what was like almost like

1330
00:50:22,760 --> 00:50:20,610
mind control like cha-cha gua in America

1331
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,770
in the eighteen eighteen hundreds of

1332
00:50:25,930 --> 00:50:24,480
19th century where they traveled around

1333
00:50:28,490 --> 00:50:25,940
from city city and sort of like

1334
00:50:31,010 --> 00:50:28,500
disseminated mind control protocols

1335
00:50:32,900 --> 00:50:31,020
almost you know I guess basically social

1336
00:50:34,340 --> 00:50:32,910
engineering you know they're they're

1337
00:50:35,359 --> 00:50:34,350
putting out information that's

1338
00:50:37,849 --> 00:50:35,369
government can

1339
00:50:40,249 --> 00:50:37,859
I adore contrived by the architects who

1340
00:50:43,519 --> 00:50:40,259
are trying to get a desired social

1341
00:50:46,130 --> 00:50:43,529
result and so Mzee knees was to spread

1342
00:50:47,690 --> 00:50:46,140
insurrection to spread revolution you

1343
00:50:51,249 --> 00:50:47,700
know and and he was part of that

1344
00:50:57,109 --> 00:50:51,259
revolutionary spirit and he definitely

1345
00:50:59,029 --> 00:50:57,119
had a specific agenda in mind and being

1346
00:51:02,089 --> 00:50:59,039
a friend of Albert Pike's over here in

1347
00:51:04,220 --> 00:51:02,099
America Albert Pike was not only the

1348
00:51:05,870 --> 00:51:04,230
head of the Scottish Rite he was also

1349
00:51:08,299 --> 00:51:05,880
one of the heads of the Knights of the

1350
00:51:09,620 --> 00:51:08,309
Golden Circle that's how America found

1351
00:51:11,029 --> 00:51:09,630
out about the Knights of the Golden

1352
00:51:13,730 --> 00:51:11,039
Circle because of the Lincoln

1353
00:51:15,710 --> 00:51:13,740
assassination trials it was all brought

1354
00:51:18,890 --> 00:51:15,720
out and maybe we can get into that more

1355
00:51:21,680 --> 00:51:18,900
you know in the in the second hour here

1356
00:51:23,660 --> 00:51:21,690
right we can talk more about the ways in

1357
00:51:27,170 --> 00:51:23,670
which Albert Pike and Mazzini brought

1358
00:51:29,299 --> 00:51:27,180
you know all of this their specific

1359
00:51:31,249 --> 00:51:29,309
agenda onboard and recruited from the

1360
00:51:33,859 --> 00:51:31,259
rank-and-file of Freemasonry yeah right

1361
00:51:36,650 --> 00:51:33,869
on we definitely can do that but then

1362
00:51:38,720 --> 00:51:36,660
another element of masonry that comes

1363
00:51:40,430 --> 00:51:38,730
out in the conspiracy world that I'm

1364
00:51:43,549 --> 00:51:40,440
kind of curious about I want to ask you

1365
00:51:45,739 --> 00:51:43,559
about is this idea of the deity flip

1366
00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:45,749
that at the highest degrees in masonry

1367
00:51:50,599 --> 00:51:47,249
or even within the order of the church

1368
00:51:52,309 --> 00:51:50,609
you eventually learn that if they let

1369
00:51:54,140 --> 00:51:52,319
you get high enough that a negative

1370
00:51:56,269 --> 00:51:54,150
entity is what's really being worshipped

1371
00:51:58,549 --> 00:51:56,279
a negative god rather than this all

1372
00:52:00,349 --> 00:51:58,559
loving God they preach about and this

1373
00:52:03,380 --> 00:52:00,359
kind of gets into the idea that Lucifer

1374
00:52:05,390 --> 00:52:03,390
is the good guy and and the and Yahweh

1375
00:52:06,859 --> 00:52:05,400
is the bad but I find it pretty

1376
00:52:09,410 --> 00:52:06,869
interesting can you give us any insight

1377
00:52:11,239 --> 00:52:09,420
there as to what's going on well again I

1378
00:52:13,160 --> 00:52:11,249
think we're back at that whole 91 parts

1379
00:52:15,380 --> 00:52:13,170
of the earth and the crossroad demons

1380
00:52:18,049 --> 00:52:15,390
and the different grades that when I

1381
00:52:20,989 --> 00:52:18,059
talked about governors kings and princes

1382
00:52:23,630 --> 00:52:20,999
this terminology is a way to designate a

1383
00:52:26,029 --> 00:52:23,640
different level in a hierarchy you know

1384
00:52:27,650 --> 00:52:26,039
so these this is the thinking right good

1385
00:52:30,140 --> 00:52:27,660
right okay so these individuals they're

1386
00:52:33,410 --> 00:52:30,150
really operating with this belief that

1387
00:52:36,349 --> 00:52:33,420
they think in terms of a hierarchical

1388
00:52:38,170 --> 00:52:36,359
setup for power and that's really what

1389
00:52:42,079 --> 00:52:38,180
we're talking about here is power

1390
00:52:46,009 --> 00:52:42,089
elemental power and and so the fact that

1391
00:52:48,380 --> 00:52:46,019
the idea of a reversal of deity I like

1392
00:52:49,039 --> 00:52:48,390
that terminology because it's subtle it

1393
00:52:50,749 --> 00:52:49,049
really

1394
00:52:52,039 --> 00:52:50,759
when you come into a large system and

1395
00:52:54,049 --> 00:52:52,049
you start going through the first three

1396
00:52:56,179 --> 00:52:54,059
degrees there's no indication of

1397
00:52:57,499 --> 00:52:56,189
anything of the sort you really don't

1398
00:52:59,479 --> 00:52:57,509
get that you get this good-old-boy

1399
00:53:01,130 --> 00:52:59,489
experience with a bunch of Methodists

1400
00:53:02,959 --> 00:53:01,140
really I mean that's what it feels like

1401
00:53:04,639 --> 00:53:02,969
it feels like you're in church almost

1402
00:53:06,769 --> 00:53:04,649
it's that sort of boring kind of

1403
00:53:08,359 --> 00:53:06,779
vibration going on and a lot of it's

1404
00:53:10,009 --> 00:53:08,369
sort of silly and hokey and it seems

1405
00:53:11,599 --> 00:53:10,019
light-hearted but when you get into the

1406
00:53:13,459 --> 00:53:11,609
higher degrees and start to get into the

1407
00:53:15,620 --> 00:53:13,469
invitational orders that's when the

1408
00:53:17,689 --> 00:53:15,630
black cloaks with the hoods come out and

1409
00:53:20,299 --> 00:53:17,699
the burning incense and the candles you

1410
00:53:22,549 --> 00:53:20,309
know and the strange symbols appear on

1411
00:53:24,380 --> 00:53:22,559
the altar you know this this the

1412
00:53:26,719 --> 00:53:24,390
triangles and the circles and the stars

1413
00:53:30,620 --> 00:53:26,729
become more emphasized with the

1414
00:53:33,709 --> 00:53:30,630
different anagram achill words you know

1415
00:53:36,289 --> 00:53:33,719
so it's like a sigil and it seems like

1416
00:53:39,159 --> 00:53:36,299
you have these polyhedrons and these

1417
00:53:41,479 --> 00:53:39,169
strange mandala like geometrical

1418
00:53:44,719 --> 00:53:41,489
patterns or all the sudden applied to

1419
00:53:46,939 --> 00:53:44,729
the ritual and all of these things coax

1420
00:53:49,399 --> 00:53:46,949
the awareness and the consciousness into

1421
00:53:51,139 --> 00:53:49,409
a certain kind of frequency vibration so

1422
00:53:53,509 --> 00:53:51,149
it's completely plausible what you're

1423
00:53:55,549 --> 00:53:53,519
saying that the individuals at the core

1424
00:53:57,679 --> 00:53:55,559
of this the leadership in fact would be

1425
00:54:01,009 --> 00:53:57,689
contriving a system in which they could

1426
00:54:04,279 --> 00:54:01,019
literally attract certain energetic form

1427
00:54:06,620 --> 00:54:04,289
certain frequency vibrations to get what

1428
00:54:09,439 --> 00:54:06,630
to get more power right right I mean a

1429
00:54:12,019 --> 00:54:09,449
conduit to harvest power from

1430
00:54:13,849 --> 00:54:12,029
individuals average individuals yeah

1431
00:54:16,549 --> 00:54:13,859
it's super compelling because it also

1432
00:54:18,379 --> 00:54:16,559
explains why rumors of really dark

1433
00:54:20,539 --> 00:54:18,389
things like pedophilia and human

1434
00:54:22,699 --> 00:54:20,549
sacrifice plague the upper deck of these

1435
00:54:24,589 --> 00:54:22,709
powerful groups I mean even Jesus on the

1436
00:54:27,079 --> 00:54:24,599
cross eating his flesh and drinking his

1437
00:54:29,329 --> 00:54:27,089
blood that is a mock human sacrifice

1438
00:54:30,559 --> 00:54:29,339
every Sunday morning and in the typical

1439
00:54:32,839 --> 00:54:30,569
Church you know but it's so subtle

1440
00:54:34,729 --> 00:54:32,849
because it's based in tradition and we

1441
00:54:37,039 --> 00:54:34,739
don't we don't challenge it we don't ask

1442
00:54:38,929 --> 00:54:37,049
questions as to why we're eating the

1443
00:54:40,549 --> 00:54:38,939
flesh of the sky we worship because I

1444
00:54:42,109 --> 00:54:40,559
don't do that in my everyday life but

1445
00:54:44,329 --> 00:54:42,119
when you go to the church that's what's

1446
00:54:47,059 --> 00:54:44,339
going on so it really does make me

1447
00:54:48,919 --> 00:54:47,069
wonder well yeah the idea of sacrifice

1448
00:54:51,139 --> 00:54:48,929
is a deep-seated issue in our

1449
00:54:53,179 --> 00:54:51,149
consciousness there's so much to dislike

1450
00:54:55,459 --> 00:54:53,189
a whole other show we can talk about the

1451
00:54:57,319 --> 00:54:55,469
the you know what's really going on

1452
00:54:59,749 --> 00:54:57,329
there as far as what we're dealing with

1453
00:55:02,089 --> 00:54:59,759
with with people who buy into that

1454
00:55:02,420 --> 00:55:02,099
ideology and then the effects of it on

1455
00:55:07,220 --> 00:55:02,430
all

1456
00:55:10,130 --> 00:55:07,230
you know what we're suffering under the

1457
00:55:12,260 --> 00:55:10,140
consensual reality that that is formed

1458
00:55:14,420 --> 00:55:12,270
over time when enough people believe a

1459
00:55:16,670 --> 00:55:14,430
thing it's reinforced in the quote

1460
00:55:18,559 --> 00:55:16,680
unquote collective consciousness and

1461
00:55:21,530 --> 00:55:18,569
unconsciousness and everybody's sort of

1462
00:55:23,900 --> 00:55:21,540
buying into it after a while and the the

1463
00:55:27,650 --> 00:55:23,910
idea of okay so what it breaks down to

1464
00:55:30,170 --> 00:55:27,660
is like this you have linkages between

1465
00:55:33,020 --> 00:55:30,180
all things in the universe there was a

1466
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:33,030
guy named Bruno who was a medieval her

1467
00:55:38,500 --> 00:55:35,970
medicine and he wrote a lot about these

1468
00:55:42,650 --> 00:55:38,510
linkages the correspondences between

1469
00:55:45,589 --> 00:55:42,660
things and he believed that magic the

1470
00:55:49,130 --> 00:55:45,599
idea of magic which defined magic merely

1471
00:55:51,710 --> 00:55:49,140
means causing change in accordance with

1472
00:55:53,630 --> 00:55:51,720
will whether you mean physically or just

1473
00:55:55,460 --> 00:55:53,640
in the level of consciousness it's

1474
00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:55,470
causing change in accordance with well

1475
00:56:00,890 --> 00:55:57,690
that's all magic is in the debt by

1476
00:56:02,720 --> 00:56:00,900
definition so having said that Bruno

1477
00:56:05,420 --> 00:56:02,730
believed that magic was fueled by

1478
00:56:09,680 --> 00:56:05,430
something a force and electrical grid or

1479
00:56:12,859 --> 00:56:09,690
whatever but he turned arrows like love

1480
00:56:15,170 --> 00:56:12,869
love from the from the Latin so so eros

1481
00:56:19,240 --> 00:56:15,180
right and or is it Greek it may be Greek

1482
00:56:22,309 --> 00:56:19,250
but the idea of this energy fueling

1483
00:56:24,200 --> 00:56:22,319
these linkages these correspondences

1484
00:56:26,390 --> 00:56:24,210
between different things all things in

1485
00:56:30,349 --> 00:56:26,400
the universe whether living organic or

1486
00:56:32,270 --> 00:56:30,359
inorganic so the idea of this was it

1487
00:56:34,819 --> 00:56:32,280
paints a picture when you think about

1488
00:56:38,839 --> 00:56:34,829
people who are involved in twisted

1489
00:56:41,990 --> 00:56:38,849
pedophilia or deviant sexual practices

1490
00:56:44,270 --> 00:56:42,000
or just the strange stuff we hear that

1491
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:44,280
people end up doing in a cult-like

1492
00:56:51,020 --> 00:56:47,130
fashion because what we find is is that

1493
00:56:52,940 --> 00:56:51,030
if this is so in in this medieval model

1494
00:56:54,650 --> 00:56:52,950
that Bruno establishes that there is

1495
00:56:56,720 --> 00:56:54,660
these linkages between all things in the

1496
00:56:59,450 --> 00:56:56,730
universe and that it's fueled and in the

1497
00:57:01,940 --> 00:56:59,460
energy used to run the system that

1498
00:57:04,039 --> 00:57:01,950
brings about desired results desired

1499
00:57:07,160 --> 00:57:04,049
effects that changes in in accordance

1500
00:57:09,680 --> 00:57:07,170
with will is this eros this love

1501
00:57:12,410 --> 00:57:09,690
quote-unquote love energy well how

1502
00:57:15,150 --> 00:57:12,420
closely tied is that love energy to

1503
00:57:17,700 --> 00:57:15,160
sexuality right all right

1504
00:57:19,800 --> 00:57:17,710
so so you can see you can understand on

1505
00:57:21,150 --> 00:57:19,810
that level not that I'm at all condoning

1506
00:57:22,320 --> 00:57:21,160
any of this please I hope no one

1507
00:57:24,900 --> 00:57:22,330
misunderstands what I'm saying because

1508
00:57:27,300 --> 00:57:24,910
I'm not what I'm saying is this is a way

1509
00:57:29,130 --> 00:57:27,310
to understand why these people would go

1510
00:57:31,500 --> 00:57:29,140
down these twisted roads because they're

1511
00:57:34,230 --> 00:57:31,510
trying to access power through this so

1512
00:57:38,100 --> 00:57:34,240
this method this hermetic occult method

1513
00:57:40,740 --> 00:57:38,110
mm-hmm yeah that's a great point that I

1514
00:57:42,270 --> 00:57:40,750
really hadn't heard articulated yet to

1515
00:57:44,280 --> 00:57:42,280
get back to the book a little bit and

1516
00:57:46,770 --> 00:57:44,290
Scottish Rite specifically I mean it

1517
00:57:48,810 --> 00:57:46,780
seems like they're kind of a Trojan

1518
00:57:50,790 --> 00:57:48,820
horse of secret societies I mean you you

1519
00:57:52,500 --> 00:57:50,800
you pay your dues you do the rituals but

1520
00:57:54,420 --> 00:57:52,510
it's just a long road to nowhere while

1521
00:57:55,800 --> 00:57:54,430
the upper deck is rewriting history and

1522
00:57:58,200 --> 00:57:55,810
putting themselves in positions of

1523
00:58:00,990 --> 00:57:58,210
authority and amassing power on your

1524
00:58:02,550 --> 00:58:01,000
dime and it's like a big pyramid scheme

1525
00:58:05,400 --> 00:58:02,560
and last time we talked a little bit

1526
00:58:06,780 --> 00:58:05,410
about the Giants and the mounds that

1527
00:58:09,270 --> 00:58:06,790
were found in early America and the

1528
00:58:11,040 --> 00:58:09,280
Smithsonian's role in that and it's kind

1529
00:58:12,870 --> 00:58:11,050
of like the Scottish Rite is the

1530
00:58:14,610 --> 00:58:12,880
Smithsonian of secret societies because

1531
00:58:16,170 --> 00:58:14,620
they're both just fronts positioned as

1532
00:58:18,810 --> 00:58:16,180
authorities in their field and they're

1533
00:58:21,450 --> 00:58:18,820
secretly destroying or hiding the real

1534
00:58:25,640 --> 00:58:21,460
gold nuggets that is a great analogy

1535
00:58:27,990 --> 00:58:25,650
it's exactly like that and I am firmly

1536
00:58:30,390 --> 00:58:28,000
convinced I'll say with no

1537
00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:30,400
substantiation to prove this that that

1538
00:58:33,210 --> 00:58:31,810
within the house of the temple in

1539
00:58:35,430 --> 00:58:33,220
Washington DC there's probably the

1540
00:58:37,320 --> 00:58:35,440
greatest Masonic Secrets that I would

1541
00:58:39,030 --> 00:58:37,330
love to get my hands on to check out and

1542
00:58:41,250 --> 00:58:39,040
because they're hot they're to holding

1543
00:58:42,900 --> 00:58:41,260
them completely sequestered you know

1544
00:58:44,910 --> 00:58:42,910
it's just like we joked about last time

1545
00:58:46,500 --> 00:58:44,920
and I think about it this time with the

1546
00:58:48,720 --> 00:58:46,510
idea of just being put away into that

1547
00:58:50,430 --> 00:58:48,730
big room where they keep the Ark of the

1548
00:58:52,200 --> 00:58:50,440
Covenant and the spear of destiny you

1549
00:58:55,530 --> 00:58:52,210
know I mean with all the boxers with no

1550
00:58:57,600 --> 00:58:55,540
labels I mean the Vatican the Vatican

1551
00:59:00,180 --> 00:58:57,610
vault is another area where I'd love to

1552
00:59:02,730 --> 00:59:00,190
get my hands on exactly and because they

1553
00:59:05,100 --> 00:59:02,740
we know that we only have probably like

1554
00:59:07,410 --> 00:59:05,110
you know I'm not gonna be specific but

1555
00:59:10,020 --> 00:59:07,420
IND in all generalities you know the

1556
00:59:12,270 --> 00:59:10,030
smallest fraction of a percent of human

1557
00:59:13,920 --> 00:59:12,280
knowledge that we have access to you

1558
00:59:15,990 --> 00:59:13,930
know there's a whole bunch that we're

1559
00:59:18,240 --> 00:59:16,000
just not it's just not available and

1560
00:59:20,130 --> 00:59:18,250
when I entered the lodge system I found

1561
00:59:22,320 --> 00:59:20,140
that to be true

1562
00:59:25,290 --> 00:59:22,330
I discovered that there are many private

1563
00:59:26,820 --> 00:59:25,300
libraries that are sequestered all over

1564
00:59:27,549 --> 00:59:26,830
the landscape that people don't even

1565
00:59:30,279 --> 00:59:27,559
argument

1566
00:59:32,199 --> 00:59:30,289
exist where there's tons of material

1567
00:59:34,809 --> 00:59:32,209
just sitting on the shelves rotting not

1568
00:59:37,179 --> 00:59:34,819
being unused totally just sitting there

1569
00:59:39,099 --> 00:59:37,189
unused and it's a real shame

1570
00:59:41,679 --> 00:59:39,109
oh yeah it's probably one of the biggest

1571
00:59:43,900 --> 00:59:41,689
shames of our time Roderick's my friend

1572
00:59:45,429 --> 00:59:43,910
this has been awesome I'm glad you

1573
00:59:47,380 --> 00:59:45,439
finally got that book out I know how

1574
00:59:48,789 --> 00:59:47,390
hard that can be and it is full of

1575
00:59:50,289 --> 00:59:48,799
awesome info would you like to remind

1576
00:59:52,719 --> 00:59:50,299
the people where they can pick that up

1577
00:59:55,509 --> 00:59:52,729
so you can get the biggest margin on

1578
00:59:57,819 --> 00:59:55,519
that sale and also I guess your website

1579
00:59:59,769 --> 00:59:57,829
and podcast yeah of course it's at the

1580
01:00:01,269 --> 00:59:59,779
normal places Amazon has the book you

1581
01:00:03,579 --> 01:00:01,279
can just type in secret war inside

1582
01:00:05,170 --> 01:00:03,589
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1583
01:00:08,620 --> 01:00:05,180
really are directing folks over to our

1584
01:00:10,509 --> 01:00:08,630
website middle chamber Mediacom because

1585
01:00:12,699 --> 01:00:10,519
it's right it's more direct support for

1586
01:00:15,489 --> 01:00:12,709
everything we're doing we have a family

1587
01:00:16,989 --> 01:00:15,499
I've had to take serious economic cuts

1588
01:00:19,749 --> 01:00:16,999
just to get the book out as you could

1589
01:00:21,519 --> 01:00:19,759
imagine and and that means taking time

1590
01:00:23,559 --> 01:00:21,529
off of regular work in order to make it

1591
01:00:24,910 --> 01:00:23,569
happen so we are asking folks to buy

1592
01:00:26,949 --> 01:00:24,920
directly from us because we get the

1593
01:00:28,839 --> 01:00:26,959
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1594
01:00:32,019 --> 01:00:28,849
us to move forward I've got some

1595
01:00:34,120 --> 01:00:32,029
exciting new projects coming from become

1596
01:00:36,699 --> 01:00:34,130
a living God calm look forward to a

1597
01:00:39,189 --> 01:00:36,709
whole new set of projects from them with

1598
01:00:41,410 --> 01:00:39,199
freighter X and of course I'm always

1599
01:00:43,089 --> 01:00:41,420
working with Freeman tv.com but to get

1600
01:00:45,069 --> 01:00:43,099
this book the secret war inside

1601
01:00:47,739 --> 01:00:45,079
Freemasonry you go on over to middle

1602
01:00:50,229 --> 01:00:47,749
chamber Mediacom and of course regular

1603
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updates if we have podcasts my wife Mae

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01:00:55,359 --> 01:00:52,279
directs who is also the editor of the

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01:00:57,370 --> 01:00:55,369
book her and I we do podcasts regularly

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01:00:59,380 --> 01:00:57,380
throughout the month of our own over at

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the middle chamber and you can find that

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links to that at the website and they're

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constantly being updated all the time

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01:01:06,549 --> 01:01:04,819
and Gregg thank you for having me on I

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01:01:07,809 --> 01:01:06,559
would love to come back on some other

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01:01:10,299 --> 01:01:07,819
time and continue our awesome

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01:01:11,949 --> 01:01:10,309
conversations of course man it is always

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fun and I'll definitely throw in links

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01:01:16,029 --> 01:01:14,719
with the episode that are the ones that

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01:01:17,019 --> 01:01:16,039
are really going to get you to the book

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where you are gonna get the biggest

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01:01:22,900 --> 01:01:19,549
margin we can cut out the big giant

1619
01:01:24,519 --> 01:01:22,910
corporate middleman and yeah I mean but

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01:01:26,469 --> 01:01:24,529
it's been awesome we covered a lot of

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01:01:30,269 --> 01:01:26,479
ground you never yelled at me so it's a

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01:01:33,130 --> 01:01:30,279
good day I hope you never expected such

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01:01:34,719 --> 01:01:33,140
but I do wish you well man I know you're

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01:01:36,489 --> 01:01:34,729
doing a lot of great work your wealth of

1625
01:01:38,620 --> 01:01:36,499
information I know you and mater X have

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01:01:40,120 --> 01:01:38,630
four kids sometimes making sure that

1627
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there's a solid revenue stream

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01:01:45,160 --> 01:01:41,960
can get in the way of the research and

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as it's designed to do but you've stayed

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01:01:49,990 --> 01:01:47,720
strong and you know I'd really like to

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01:01:52,180 --> 01:01:50,000
see the people connect with you and

1632
01:01:53,950 --> 01:01:52,190
support what you're doing even more so

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01:01:55,270 --> 01:01:53,960
than than other guests I've had because

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01:01:58,270 --> 01:01:55,280
I think you're awesome and we are

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01:01:59,650 --> 01:01:58,280
friends and hopefully they will so you

1636
01:02:01,240 --> 01:01:59,660
know keep doing what you do man until

1637
01:02:03,250 --> 01:02:01,250
the next show take care of yourself out

1638
01:02:04,360 --> 01:02:03,260
there you too Greg farewell and keep it

1639
01:02:05,680 --> 01:02:04,370
up brother you're doing that you're

1640
01:02:08,170 --> 01:02:05,690
fighting the good fight as well and I'm

1641
01:02:10,150 --> 01:02:08,180
really excited to know you man I'm glad

1642
01:02:12,820 --> 01:02:10,160
that we are able to do these awesome

1643
01:02:14,640 --> 01:02:12,830
conversations boom goes the dynamite

1644
01:02:16,870 --> 01:02:14,650
people hitting all the high notes

1645
01:02:18,610 --> 01:02:16,880
re-examining all the rumors and getting

1646
01:02:20,560 --> 01:02:18,620
some real insight into the things they

1647
01:02:22,570 --> 01:02:20,570
just don't want us to know glad when man

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01:02:24,490 --> 01:02:22,580
finally got the book out he's a blast to

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01:02:26,020 --> 01:02:24,500
talk to you and after all the things we

1650
01:02:28,060 --> 01:02:26,030
talked about in the first hour we went

1651
01:02:30,190 --> 01:02:28,070
on to elaborate more on the mound

1652
01:02:32,620 --> 01:02:30,200
builders of ancient america stories of

1653
01:02:34,470 --> 01:02:32,630
giant skeletons ley lines and natural

1654
01:02:36,490 --> 01:02:34,480
energy grids and just what the early

1655
01:02:38,560 --> 01:02:36,500
colonialist might have known about all

1656
01:02:40,810 --> 01:02:38,570
that stuff a possible connection between

1657
01:02:43,390 --> 01:02:40,820
the Nephilim the giant skeletons and

1658
01:02:45,130 --> 01:02:43,400
humanity's spiritual virus suppressed

1659
01:02:47,380 --> 01:02:45,140
stories from the Book of Enoch the lure

1660
01:02:49,360 --> 01:02:47,390
of changelings more about Albert Pike

1661
01:02:51,330 --> 01:02:49,370
and a little something some my dear

1662
01:02:54,010 --> 01:02:51,340
friend wrote about that follows some

1663
01:02:55,080 --> 01:02:54,020
MKULTRA funding right back to the

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01:02:58,930 --> 01:02:55,090
Scottish Rite

1665
01:03:01,000 --> 01:02:58,940
yikes all that and more at the higher

1666
01:03:03,130 --> 01:03:01,010
side chats plus calm

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01:03:04,660 --> 01:03:03,140
we have no ads we waste little time and

1668
01:03:06,820 --> 01:03:04,670
I don't ask for anything from you guys

1669
01:03:09,190 --> 01:03:06,830
without giving something back so double

1670
01:03:10,900 --> 01:03:09,200
your pleasure double your fun and for

1671
01:03:13,090 --> 01:03:10,910
five bucks get a second hour of the show

1672
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:13,100
and every show now I'm very psyched

1673
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:15,290
about next week's episode a Valentine's

1674
01:03:20,560 --> 01:03:17,450
Day special with an accomplished

1675
01:03:23,500 --> 01:03:20,570
sorcerer Jason Miller all about sex

1676
01:03:24,880 --> 01:03:23,510
magic not one for the kids unless you're

1677
01:03:27,190 --> 01:03:24,890
part of the political religious or

1678
01:03:29,430 --> 01:03:27,200
Hollywood elite put any way to great

1679
01:03:32,140 --> 01:03:29,440
return guests in a row how about that

1680
01:03:33,910 --> 01:03:32,150
people you've been too good to me thanks

1681
01:03:34,900 --> 01:03:33,920
so much keep listening I'll keep

1682
01:03:37,180 --> 01:03:34,910
churning them out

1683
01:03:40,300 --> 01:03:37,190
this is Greg Carl Wood punching out boss

1684
01:03:41,760 --> 01:03:40,310
and I'll see you love her soon your

1685
01:03:44,920 --> 01:03:41,770
moves got

1686
01:03:48,130 --> 01:03:44,930
I'm a walking worst-case scenario

1687
01:03:50,070 --> 01:03:48,140
most the time I've always crashed and

1688
01:03:52,690 --> 01:03:50,080
burned

1689
01:03:56,110 --> 01:03:52,700
started out in total confusion

1690
01:04:03,760 --> 01:03:56,120
don't look at worse with every screw I

1691
01:04:06,290 --> 01:04:03,770
turn but I've got older there's one

1692
01:04:10,320 --> 01:04:06,300
thing I have

1693
01:04:15,210 --> 01:04:10,330
goons on you get more and more out of it

1694
01:04:18,780 --> 01:04:15,220
than ever least it'd be amazing you get

1695
01:04:27,560 --> 01:04:18,790
out of it what do you put into it out of

1696
01:04:36,090 --> 01:04:31,100
depends on how you like yourself will be

1697
01:04:37,950 --> 01:04:36,100
well-done scrambled or fried which I

1698
01:04:42,680 --> 01:04:37,960
faked a should seem a least effective

1699
01:04:46,530 --> 01:04:42,690
rapid effect to reveal the man inside

1700
01:04:51,530 --> 01:04:46,540
but don't advertise your expectations

1701
01:04:56,670 --> 01:04:51,540
just identify

1702
01:04:59,420 --> 01:04:56,680
goes on you get more out of it I'm more

1703
01:05:03,750 --> 01:04:59,430
out of it never seen

1704
01:05:08,730 --> 01:05:03,760
you can top of it what you put into it I